People rate GGG above Froch??

Every fighter Froch fights looks better than him. Froch has always looked limited but his chin and willpower has to be HOF worthy.

 

OK, if resume doesn't determine how good a fighter is, then what does? Ability? In-ring skills? Like I said, anyone can look like the next Sugar Ray Robinson against bums.

 

Going by his statement Broner didn't need to fight Maidana he looked better even though Maidana was more proven.......

 

outside of fighters taking severe beatings in the ring more wear and tear occur during training camps, age isn't the determining factor. you could take a 25 yr old froch and GGG would smash him to pieces.

I fully expect for froch to try and cash out vs Chavez Jr and I think that fight is going to prove what I've been saying for years because Jr will beat the ever living hell out of froch

 

No doubt about that, he's entertained me for years and is one of my all time favorites. I just rate GGG very highly and have done for some time. Even with Carl's iron chin and will I think it would be a good result for him to see the final bell.

 

Are you stupid? Yes, age is a factor. People tend to be slower and less durable when they get older. This is common knowledge.

 

how does that compute in your little mind ? I think Wilder is the goods and he had some questions answered in his last fight but I haven't seen enough of him with legit comp to be able to answer his chin questions..

all I hear on here is how much of a glass chin he has. cant be that bad or he would had felt some of the shots from sverene (sp?) in his last fight.

 

YOU JUST SAID THAT RESUME DOESN'T MATTER. How is fighting legit comp not part of resume?

 

The punches and abuse Froch has taken in the ring is unreal and would have destroyed most fighters and their careers.

You do know that Frochs team went to HBO for a American PPV fight with GGG and was turned down? He went with his only other option Chaves to make an American PPV viable. Yea he's retiring and wants an American PPV fight but he tried a GGG fight. Don't act like he went for an easy road it's not any different than GGG saying he won't fight Ward because it's not a PPV fight.

 

yes of course it is A factor, it is not the only factor.
I think you are the idiot who never trained a day in his life.

the most wear and tear comes from training camps, because they are consistently beating the hell out of their bodies.

you should try it someday, you'll feel better about yourself, for a while anyways.

fyi: people aren't robots meatball, NO one ages the same, everyone ages differently. they say the rule of thumb is once you hit 30 you start to slow down and your body is unable to produce the same amount of testosterone it once was.

so yes, for the most part you start to lose speed, strength and muscle once you reach 30 BUT everyone is different. that might be new to you but you are in fact different than boxing clown

 

This sh*t is crazy!

 

don't put words in peoples mouths. I don't understand the need on here for people to start arguments over nothing that can be proven either way.

i know froch went looking for a ppv with GGG (luckily for froch he didn't get it) they will approve Jr as long as he wins this weekend, then Jr and froch with Jr destroying him over 7/8/9 rounds to a tko..

yes froch takes beatings all the time, that is supposed to be a surprise ? one has to assume he trains his ass off, there is NO way anyone of his talent level makes it as far as he has without training like a madman.

never said Jr was the EASY way, i just stated exactly what froch has said. he wants a ppv cash out fight. i do believe he does easily deserve a big money fight.

Jr would be perfect for him, he will think whole heartedly he can win when the truth is he cant, Jr will kill him. too tough and Jr will train like crazy too. i love that fight for jr too, he will get credit due to the over rating of froch.. it will be a big win for him then he will get a huge payday vs GGG or someone else

 

legit comp means fighting a fighter with ability to push you. yes that will be ON his resume. you guys RATE fighters off resumes, what i say IMO resumes mean sh!t because its more names than anything.

you don't have to be some high profile fighter to be a world class fighter that can answer some questions.

what you fail to grasp is ( feel like i'm talking to a child ) resumes IMO mean NOTHING. that means i don't care what NAMES you have on your resume. and a resume does NOT come into play when i am ranking fighters. if i don't know enough of a fighter i cant rank them, if i know a fighter i know what he has and what he doesn't .

RESUMES imo mean nothing and you fail to understand what i mean by that. it does not mean he fought world class fighters, ohh now resumes mean smg ?

WTF are you babbling about ? resumes do NOT are taken into account in ANY of my h2h picks or in any rankings. most of the time a great resume (to most on here) is a fighter with a bunch of names on his resume, win or lose he gets credit. NOPE a LOSS is never a positive

 

When you state things like Froch just wants to cash out THAT IMPLIES he isn't looking to take a serious fight. It's funny you doubt Froch but whole heartily back Chaves who is known for fighting much smaller fighters and has used diuretics. Froch fights close to 168 and doesn't even come in over 175 while Chaves was dwarfing opponents by multiple weight divisions. Froch is not over rated it's not like people are calling RJJ or Toney. He is seen as a limited fighter who has used his willpower and chin to overcome long odds and beat better fighters. No one is saying he is this great talent. I wouldn't pick GGG over good SMWs until I see him face some solid SMWs. The guys at SMW are bigger, hit harder, are more durable, stronger, and more talented than anyone GGG has faced.

 

The only kid here is you as other posters have pointed out resumes are how you can best judge a fighter because it shows the performances they have put in against other great, good, or bad fighters. A good fighter can always look really good if he fights sub par competition because there is no one to test him or challenge him to see where his skill level is at.

Example. According to you Broner would have smashed Maidana because he looked good fighting sub par opposition while Maidana had some losses and wins against more proven fighters. Broner looks levels above Maidana when he fights sub par opposition. But did Broner beat Maidana who had losses HELL NO! You could of seen that Maidana was fighting better comp and Broner wasn't by looking at their RESUMES!