People say Floyd only takes fights he knows he will win...

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    and he proved that he is still the man at 140 after losing to floyd. beating lazcano to wide decision and beating and the first to stop paulie who was on a streak of impressive wins. hatton probed he is still effective at 140.

    meanwhile was hatton effective at 147 prior to fighting floyd? why did he went down to 140 immediately after the collazo fight?
     
  2. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Malinaggi was not on an "impressive" streak of wins, they were decent wins, and again, he cant punch worth a damn.

    If Hatton was such a great win for Pac, then why does Roach think he wasn't that good?
     
  3. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL the same guys who are saying Pac picks his opponent...Are the ones whom said his fight against DLH, Hatton, and Cotto were SUICIDE! DLH would decapitate him with a left hook, then Hatton would put to much size/ pressure on little Pac, and Cotto....That freakin dude is going to knock him out to the body again!
    Then, the **** didn't happen, and people actually started to beleive in Pac except for the haters who just changed there tune to "Yeah, Pac just takes the easy fights." The irony is killing me. Even though soembody like Margarito is limited admittedingly, the dude outweighed Pac by 17 pounds! Try getting punched by somebody that weighs 17 pounds more than you, and there whole fighting style is to try to smother you, and throw a lot of punches. Of course he didn't succeed much, but if Pac wasn't man enough to keep him off then Margarito would have eaten him.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    roach has the opinion that hatton was not that good. but his accomplishments speak for themselves and had accomplished him more than what is expected of him.

    malignaggi, after the cotto fight, has been on a set of impressive victories against cherry, ngoudjo and ndou (2x). he was beating ndou decisively if not for that stupid braid he had. he took control once again after it was cut. malignaggi was the #2 LWW ata the time while bradley was at #3.

    btw, you didn't answer my questions:
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  5. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hatton wasnt ineffective because of the weight, he was ineffective because Collazo is a skilled boxer, the type to always give Hatton some issues.

    Collazo was a strong fighter, with one loss prior to fighting Hatton. He's a slick southpaw with alot of heart, and good movement. Hatton's style is not suited for that.

    And anyway Hatton struggled but he did win the fight and the title. He moved back down because the fighters at 140, at that time, were not as good as the ones at 147.

    147 had Floyd, Mosley, Cotto, Judah, Collazo, Berto, Margo, Paul Williams, at that time. 140 had an old Castillo, Witter, Maussa, Malinaggi, Ndou, at that time.

    Hatton would not do well against those fighters styles that were at welter, even if you shrank them down to 140. He also won a title at off of Collazo, who proved to be a top 10 welter (he also dropped Collazo).

    He would never beat Floyd at 140 or 147.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    hatton and his camp knew that at 140, he was using the weight to train much better. they felt that making 147 was making hatton sluggish while making 140 has benefitted hatton with his speed and condition. thus hatton was more effective at 140 and it shows in his accomplishment. collazo and malignaggi was not far off as skills level is concern. malignaggi might be the better boxer. the difference was he dominated maliganggi at 140 while he struggled with collazo at 147, his only fight at 147 prior to floyd and he moved down immediately after.

    there's also a reason why hatton weighed only 145 in his fight with floyd against floyd's 147. hatton needed the speed he has at 140 to have a chance to cut off floyd. he is trying to bring his pysical condition at 140 which he could not bring if he weighs the full welter limit.
     
  7. Timothy

    Timothy Active Member Full Member

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    Trying to be funny.:tired :deadNice try:hi:

    NOW! kiss your ass! You have been owned:hey
     
  8. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Really, I think you have it mixed up..

    if you look at the records of Floyds last three apponents, in their last two fights, all three guys floyd has faced has a combined record of 6-0 with 5 KOs

    Mannys last three against their last two opponents you have a record of
    2-3-1 with No KOs

    So you tell me who is scouting lossing opponents....
     
  9. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    Well...for the sake of argument, Manny has been consistent in "just being a fighter" and letting his promoter pick his opponents. No matter how lackluster of a matchup it is. And that's because people don't really care who he fights anymore because he's active. Course, you have to draw on something like his rivalry with JMM after that goddamn stinkfest against Mosley.
     
  10. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well which fight would they really lose - take Pac/Floyd out, take Martinez out.....

    154 and down.....who would you pick to beat either of the two?
     
  11. PH|LLA

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  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Would they be catchweight fights? Because Pac says he'll fight anyone as long as it isn't over 150 lbs.
     
  13. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Floyd does....

    Martinez does

    Martinez is a way tougher fight for Floyd than Pac!
     
  14. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void is so afraid of Pac that he goes crazy at the mention of Pac's name! Void is void.
     
  15. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HELL YEAH
    judah loss to baldomir:hi: