People say Pac's One Dimensional.....

Mosquito, you sure living up to your name, dumb ignorant *****. :yep

If you knew anything about boxing you'd know that DLH moved up several times and beat the man in the respective division, MORON.

And that ODLH has been the smaller man and won on several occasions MORON.

atsch

 

The kind of war MAB and EM were in NO, HE WAS NOT.

Like I mentioned before, if you were following boxing when EM and MAB first fought, then you'd know that it was the concensus that both fighters left something in the ring that night, based on the brutallity of the fight. Also Chavez had never EVER been KTFO like Barrera had vs Jones.

So again, if you ask me if Chavez was in the type of wars Barrera had been in, no way.

I brought it up because your fellow *******s are calling Chavez old, I say Morales and Barrera were older in terms of ring years.

The amount of time fighting doesn't matter, what matters is how your body deals with the punishment. Someone can fight 16 years but have the SKILL to not get his body punished and still be in top form, where as someone can fight 8 years and be completely SHOT because of punishment.

And undoubtedly, Barrera and Morales were more battle worn than Chavez when Pac fought them.

Chavez won his title in a close ass fight. Randall was doing good against Chavez, but the HEADBUTT lost Randall the fight fair and square. Point deduction is penalized by the WBC. So what??! Had Cortez done his job consistantly Soto would have won by TKO, and Pac would not have gotten a draw against JMM.

I can agree with that. Just tell your dumb muther****er *******s to stop saying MAB was a better win than Chavez, and that Morales was a batter win than Whitaker, because it obviously wasn't. Chavez and Whitaker are another level than MAB and Morales.

I'm glad you agree that MAB had lost a step or two, because that is usually considered one of Pac's career defining wins, where as Chavez is not considered one of DLH's.

And ultimately that is my argument here.

While Pac's best wins are ODLH, Morales and Barrera, all past prime, two shot, and possibly two weightdrained to ****, Chavez is NOT DLH's career defining win.

So why doesn Pac gert so much credit for beating old past prime fighters, but Camacho doesn't get ****, but **** for beating Leonard is beyond me.

 

EM past it...
MAB past it...
JMM prime
DLH...need I say more?
Hatton beaten after Floyd ko'd him.
Cotto asked to defend his title at 145...

Floyd none of the above...

 

PAc isn't one dimensional... He never was.

 

Because Pacdbest, Snell, Blue_Ray, and Speedy dada were spammers who contribute NOTHING to ESB unlike me.

I have contributed a variety of threads and posts. I create a much needed balance here as well.

It takes more than 5 *******s at the same time to debate me.

My question to you is WHY DO *******S FEEL THE NEED TO CONSISTANTLY CREATE ALIASES??????!!! Bceuase Obviously, YOU ARE AN ALIAS. :yep

 

stop pretending. you aint **** youre just some dumbass mexican selling tomatoes in the street. as if you really know boxing.

now you might question why the **** i have MAB in my avy. its simple, i admire any boxer whatever nationality hes from and im not just some biased, nationalistic dumb**** with no logic like you.

 

its a shame so called boxing fans cant enjoy witnessing an atg instead of discediting his every fight.uliuli, how about the fact a featherweight is destroying welters! oh they are shot past prime..... you're full of ****.

 

Nice one AdiC.

 

Calm the **** down.

You're the biggest **** talker here, so why the **** are you the biggest :| baby??!

Go back to sleep son.:hi:

 

To say MAB was not top of his game his pure hate, even if MAB was not at his top game, neither was Pac.

Pacman beat MAB and El Terrible whilst he was still green and he still managed to beat them when he only knew how to use one hand, back then.

thats quality. :bbb

 

Pac was in his prime Physically. He may of not been as polished, but psysically he was in his prime indeed. Actually, he was stronger and faster against the smaller men.

 

i think you'll find he was far from being at his prime physically hahahaa man thats just pure hate to say pac was in his physical prime hahaha.

just look how scrawny he was compared to MAB and Marquez. You really think a Pacman back then could take a body punch from someone like Cotto hahaha

get out of here man.

u just self owned.

 

i disagree..

beating a great fighter doesn't necessarily mean it was a great win.. there are various factors and circumstances that need to be assessed to qualify if it was indeed a great win or a foregone conclusion where everyone already foresees the outcome even before the fight took place..

pac's wins over both morales and barrera are far more impressive than that of ODLH's wins over chavez and whitaker..

ODLH fought the way, way older versions of chavez and whitaker..

the manner by which pac won over these two greats are far more dominating and impressive to say the least..

bear in mind that pac came in as a proxy in the barrera fight and was going up in weight. and critics didn't give pac a chance against MAB then..

and even the time going into the second morales-pac fight, pac wasn't heavily favored to win since he lost their first fight..