people say you need a good jab to beat floyd..LIE

First, you need to put Mayweather in the ring .

Then we will see.

He is irrelevant!

 

Pernell Whitaker would have been a hard fight for him.

 

******* thinks: Uh oh, you need a good jab to beat Floyd, Pacquiao doesn't have one
So he says: You don't need a jab, you need power in both hands, angles, and uhhhhh southpaw with speed and ummmm heart
:rasta

 

No, you don't.

There is an opening that nobody has yet exploited. I explained it a bit around the time of the DLH fight.

 

LOL :happy. So a good jab then right. Roach teaching Pacquiao how to throw jabs as we speak, thanks to *******s.

 

Please share. I didn't use boxing forums back then,so I wasn't on here.

 

Gayweather is irrelevant!!!!!! Did you not hear the news? If he does not fight, he is not considerted a fighter but a vacationer!

 

I was going to just quote my original post but unfortunately ESB doesn't seem to have retained any content from before June 2007 (a month after The World Awaits) even though the last board crash was in 2004. :think Go to "Last Page" in the forum...it won't show any further back than 6/18/07. ****ed up.

Anyway, Floyd had (and still has) a lazy habit of leaning in the same direction (his right) every time when he does his below-the-waist lateral dip with his upper body...and his neck and head remain stiff as a board when he does it. Now, he has very good head movement when he's straight-up - but when he leans it's like there's an invisible string pulling his head in a line with his spine.

Now, if you throw straight punches at him he prefers to use his head-jerks or the straight back lean-away (or even a quick hop). The one time he almost always does his lean to his right is if you throw an overhand right at him from mid-range or closer.

So the trick is to fake him out with an overhand right (either a strong feint or a full-on punch pulled a moment later). We're assuming you're an orthodox fighter, btw. The idea is to get him to lean right but still not throw yourself entirely off balance. You want him to lean right, because you're going to be waiting with a move he's never seen before: slide your lead left foot forward as quickly as you can and catch his falling face mid-dive with a short left hybrid hook/uppercut. Nobody has ever stepped in and thrown that punch while he was leaning right - so he a) won't be expecting it and b) can't possibly see it coming anyway due to the angle he's moving and the angle it's going to hit him from. It's not even a matter of having ungodly speed, IMO. You just need to be anticipating the rightward lean (which you can provoke by throwing an overhand right close enough for it to be a viable threat) and then time it. The combined force of the short punch with his momentum coming the other way will result in a pretty heavy impact - enough to score a flash knockdown at the very least. Depending on how much power you pack, how well you time the punch against his dip, and how much torque you get on it it could even be enough to put him to sleep despite his very good chin.

Nobody's done this. It would be difficult to execute - but not impossible. The trick would be to look for the lean (which every opponent so far seems to have ignored) and not hesitate for even an instant.

 

Trying to follow the logic of time off between fights here.

So Hopkins didn't exist 3 weeks ago?

Andre Dirrell and Mikkel Kessler should never be spoken of ever again.

Miguel Cotto will be "a vacationer" in less than a month as well?

According to you, Joseph Agbeko was long, long retired before fighting in the tourney a month ago. Like, way retired, right?

 

I see where you're coming from and that's a good eye. But it's still only one punch. If it doesn't knock Mayweather out, you're gonna need more than just one punch to beat him. Especially once he adapts and nullifies that punch... A good jab will help for the remainder of the fight.

 

Oh yeah - it basically has to be a KO punch (or hopefully daze him enough that you can force the stoppage when he gets up by simply swarming, providing there is enough time on the clock).

That's why if you don't have explosive power (and even if you do, really) it needs to be perfectly timed.

You only get one chance. If it fails...

Floyd is not one to fall for the same trick twice. :yep

 

It takes alot of things to beat Mayweather, simply being tall with a good jab is not enough(LMAO at Margo and PW being threats), first of all, it takes an A-class fighter to stand any chance, right now Pac is the only A-class fighter around WW, #2 it takes decent speed. For sure a peak Winky at 154 would've beat Mayweather, as of right now there is no one i would favor over him, Pac is his only true threat. Berto might emerge as a threat but as of right now, Pac is the only threat.

 

Mosley thought a jab/overhand would do it...

Fool me once? Shame on me. Fool me twice? Not happening. I am going to beat your butt the remainder of the fight.

 

If you can't hit your opponent with your jab, then you are going to have a very difficult time hitting him with anything else.

 

Shane just didn't have the tools in 2010, in 2000 when he was an A class fighter and was actually faster than Floyd, things could've been interesting but as of today, I can't see anyone beating him. However Berto has the potential to become a serious threat, especially with Floyd beginning to age.