People thought Joshua was going to fight Hrgovic?

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  1. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would hardly call his win over Parker a ‘close fight’. AJ won convincingly while Wilder managed to lose every round to him. His resume is not the best but aside from Fury who is more accomplished at heavyweight? Usyk has has 5 fights while Wilder beat one legit opponent his whole career. Is AJ’s resume overrated, yes, doesn’t mean it’s not solid and better than pretty much everyone else’s in the division.
     
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  2. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Francis is much better tougher than his recent fights since Usyk

    Wallin was OK, but he didn't have the power to discourage Aj and they have sparred loads together.

    Aj is going to get sparked in March
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like how you purposely left off Joshua revenging the loss to Ruiz.

    As for the Parker fight being close ? All 3 judges had it very wide for Joshua I myself had Joshua comfortably winning 8-4.

    I don't know what your definition of "close win" is. But when 3 judges have a fighter winning by 8 and 9 rounds, and the average fan has Joshua winning comfortably by atleast 4 rounds that's not my definition of "close win".
     
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  4. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The biggest difference between Hrgovic and Joshua is Hrgovic has a chin…
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ring Magazine stripped Fury of their recognition on a Friday night and 24 hours later handed Usyk their belt in the ring after his rematch with Joshua.
    :rolleyes:

    The IBF will strip the winner of Fury-Usyk days after that unification. (They waited 10 days after Fury beat Wlad.)

    If Joshua/Hearn had any intention of fighting Hrgovic, he could sign to fight him on March 8 - since they are both going to be fighting on the same show anyway and BOTH just fought tuneups (again, on the same card).

    The IBF belt will be vacant by then.

    They (Joshua/Hearn) don't have any intention of fighting Hrgovic.

    Hrgovic and Joshua don't need any more tuneups. Joshua spent the entire last year "tuning up."
     
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  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    As soon as I see Andy Ruiz I but not II, I already know this is biased and not worth a discussion.
     
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  7. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do I rate Joshua's win over a 282 lb Ruiz? Not really. Good on him for going straight into the rematch, it's not his fault Andy couldn't handle the overnight celebrity and became a tub of lard. I legitimately do not believe 282lb Andy Ruiz is EVER better than 10 other fighters in the division. Even the Mexican beef version of him has had huge struggles to stay at the bottom of the top 10.

    If "competitive fight" makes you happier than "close win" then read it that way. Let's not discuss judges and AJ unless you want to revisit the Usyk cards.
     
  8. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As soon as I see people listing USYK on Joshua's resume as a positive (he got dominated twice) and not a negative I know they are hopeless.
     
  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you're counting the Ruiz loss against Joshua then you should also give him credit for the win, he took an immediate rematch and beat Ruiz handily. If Ruiz couldn't get himself in proper shape that's on him but when is he ever in "shape" though ?

    You leaving off the Ruiz win just makes you look like you're being biased to discredit Joshua without being honest including the Ruiz win aswell which is being objective.

    Well you stated it as close to discredit Joshua and that's dishonest narrative, it was a clear win for Joshua in the eyes of the judges and the fans. I don't really see what the Usyk fights have to do with you claiming Joshua/Parker as close when it wasn't.
     
  10. edabomb

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    AJ Parker pretty much has to be discounted due to the third man in the ring. The more I think about it the more I think he was trying to get the fight to go 12, which would have been a decent bet with AJ stopping all previous fighters and mostly well within the rounds. The action he was breaking up in the inside wasn't necessarily going to favour Parker.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I haven't watched it in years, but it didn't seem like the referee was trying to do Parker any favors when Parker landed about the only hard punch he landed flush in the whole fight, and Joshua took the shot and called 'time' ... and the referee gave him a few seconds.

    I recall Al Bernstein on Showtime going ballistic.
     
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  12. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The referee could part the red sea.
     
  13. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's a great fighter. Rumor has it he dropped Cro-Cop when he was just 13 years old.


    Can anyone confirm?
     
  14. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Forged aboud it.


    That was Zvonimir Boban.
     
  15. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How was that AJ’s fault? He rematched the guy who stopped him immediately and whitewashed him - you cannot hold the fact Ruiz did not train against AJ.

    Joshua beat Parker very comfortably, your original statement is misleading and seems biased.

    The scoring in the Usyk fights was a joke and heavily biased towards AJ. However have you seen some of the cards Wilder has been given (namely in the first Fury fight)? Or the fact Fury got away with not having an additional KD not scored against Ngannou and a point taken off for an illegal elbow. So let’s not bring in the judges when every single one of the big heavyweights has massive amounts of A side privilege, not just AJ.