People who think Ali would be able to compete with the tall-superheavyweights

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    All you guys that claim Ali couldn't punch obviously never saw what
    Sonny Liston said after their first fight ,his face cut an bruised
    " They told me that boy couldnt punch They LIED" !!!
     
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  2. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Ali wasn't even 20 years old when he turned pro. When Ali won the title at 22 he was 210 lbs. In the late 60's Ali's average weight was 210-212. At this weight he had almost no fat on him and was lightning fast. In the early to mid 70's his best weight was between 215-220, which Ali struggled to make consistently. Ali would've always been a Heavweight.
     
    Jackomano, Jul 20, 2017
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  3. HerolGee

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    YOUR LOGIC you mean.

    Dont try to force your continous failing to grasp human proportions onto me.

    Deal with your own failings yourself!
     
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  4. Clinton

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    Featherfisted (at) cruiserweight Steve Cunningham dropped super sized giant undefeated Tyson Fury, but Muhammed Ali couldn't compete. Ok. Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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  5. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime Ali --- nobody could hit him. And the fastest heavyweight ever!!!!
     
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  6. Radrook

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    But we can't compare prime Ali with a slow, lumbering SHW.
     
    Radrook, Jul 21, 2017
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  7. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Only casuals think Ali is the greatest. When did you start to watch boxing? yesterday?
     
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    chacal, Jul 21, 2017
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  8. BlackPanther(Comics)

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    Agreed. The greatest doesn't lose to the same fighter 3 times like Ali did to Ken Norton. There is no one greatest anything when it comes to sports. Like only casuals think Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player.
     
    BlackPanther(Comics), Jul 21, 2017
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  9. daverobin

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    your ******ed ......did ali look fat against frazier in fight 1at 215 lbs ? did ali look fat against frazier in fight 2 at 212 lbs ? go look at alis body in the 2nd norton bout at 212 lbs ......u sir are cross eyed
     
    daverobin, Jul 22, 2017
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  10. SmackDaBum

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    Compared with Joshua or Klitschko he looked fat. Take of your bias glasses and look for body definitions instead.

    Or ask a bodybuilder about the BF% if you dont wanna listen to me...
     
    SmackDaBum, Jul 22, 2017
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  11. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spot on.
    A lot of people try and say modern heavyweights are all fat, but back in the day actual heavyweight champions like Ali in the mid to late 70s and Joe Frazier were chubby.

    The heavyweight champion today Joshua is definitely not chubby.
     
    James Smith, Jul 22, 2017
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  12. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Exactly! Just look how fat Ali and Fraizer were compared to modern athletes just at 220 pounds...

    Proof:[url]http://imgur.com/a/ibCg8[/url]

    Then compare it with modern ripped athletes: [url]https://www.google.se/search?tbs=simg:CAESpQIJoTi2te1jPqAamQILEKjU2AQaAghCDAsQsIynCBpiCmAIAxIoyRvfEMEQyxvMG9ofzxDKEMcb2x_1nOqY_1-DqELaQy5TrHPOY6zS7qLhowmnRdG_1T-OP_1PlyBv1qDTuGc9Fa6fRrWLp4aviOD_1bO6j0MQabosIAsZdNfq29rjoIAQMCxCOrv4IGgoKCAgBEgQ_1EB_1qDAsQne3BCRqGAQoeCgtiYXJlY2hlc3RlZNqliPYDCwoJL20vMGRtNmRsChoKCGNsb3RoaW5n2qWI9gMKCggvbS8wOWoyZAoVCgNtYW7apYj2AwoKCC9tLzA0eXg0ChgKBm11c2NsZdqliPYDCgoIL20vMDRfZnMKFwoEbWFsZdqliPYDCwoJL20vMDV6cHB6DA&q=muhammad+ali+vs+joe+frazier+3&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjK1LmEvJ3VAhXGPZoKHbHbCR8Q7AkILg&biw=360&bih=616#tbm=isch&q=joshua+klitschko+naked&imgdii=aVuFT1SUY3na-M:&imgrc=WJ1qChjtsbeazM[/url]:

    How would you rate their BF% according to this Pictures?
     
    SmackDaBum, Jul 22, 2017
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  13. James Smith

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    Ali 13%
    Frazier 15%
    Joshua 7%
    Klitschko 7-8%
     
    James Smith, Jul 22, 2017
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  14. Loudon

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    Who's said that ALL modern HW's are fat?

    What point are you trying to make here?

    Ali wasn't chubby.

    List the top 10-20 HW's today, and we'll see who's got great definition.
     
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  15. James Smith

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    More than the top 10 heavyweights of the 70s that is for sure.
     
    James Smith, Jul 22, 2017
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