People who think Ali would be able to compete with the tall-superheavyweights

I just showed you proof of how easy prime Ali would have made cruiser today.

Just a minimum amount of Weight cutting for weigh in and rehydration to fight night and he is a cruiser right there. I would say Almost a perfect cruiser.

Just read this for example: [url]https://breakingmuscle.com/fitness/science-examines-rehydration-after-weight-cutting[/url]

201.5 pound lean ( even up to 207.5 pound semi-lean)Ali would have been a great cruiser according to the article.

He basically just needs to be in his somewhat lean shape for weigh ins...

 

No, you need to wake up. Boxing is about "weight classes" not "aesthetics class". If having chiseled abs meant you would win, Ken Norton and Frank Bruno would be undefeated. Klitschko is also obviously on some sort of PED to remain shredded at 41, what, you think he looks like that naturally from basic sit ups and wheeties?

Wasnt there a huge weight ratio between Holyfield and Foreman/Bowe? Joe Louis vs Carnera? Or more recently Haye vs Valuev? You dont just plug in the numbers to determine the winner. Thats stupid.

Ali made weight in his prime and consistently weighed over 205 lbs. He was in shape and proved it by being able to go 15 rounds. Everyone is going to have a little bit of fat, even world class athleted. Youre acting like he was obese with man boobs and giant love handles.

If you weigh 147, youre a welterweight. If you weigh 160, youre a middleweight. If youre 210+ lbs and in good enough shape to go 15 rounds youre a goddamn heavyweight. Its that simple.

 

I have always said a prime Ali at 6ft 3 inches weighing around 215lbs had all the attributes to compete and defeat any heavyweight in history.

I'm terms of sheer physical size and boxing ability, Lennox Lewis is the perfect heavyweight.

Still, All would be my pick.

 

Seen.

"He’s going to come out and go for the kill. He’s a heavy hitter, so I’ve got to be cautious. Remember, I’m older, so I can’t move like I used to move, so it’s basically going to be a toe-to-toe battle."

 

It was theoretically possible, but not realistic.

You only want to portray him as a CW because it suits your argument.

 

Who cares?

A bodybuilder is weak on stage.

Joshua is too big.

List me the top 10 HW's of the 70's, then list the top 10 HW's of today.

We'll compare their physiques across 40 years.

 

Bollocks.

Lowest ever recorded bodyfat for a professional bodybuilder was Andreas Munzer at 4% and he died soon after. It's medically impossible to go any lower than that and live. Your organs will shut down.

You're living in a fantasy land if you think anyone in history has ever reached 2% bodyfat.

 

who cares what thier bodies look like .....if wlad couldnt handle sanders hand speed ....hows he gonna handle a moving ali with straight right hands right down the pipe and move out of range ? i understand sanders hits harder then ali but ali would play with wlad ....who cares about body type ....if you wanna get nitty gritty about it do you think wlad or joshua would be as ripped in the 70s ? compared to today ? perhaps put your biased glasses back on bro

 

ps the pictures you just shown were of ali and frazier before thier 3rd fight i can tell by their trunks ,,,,both guys over their prime weight ali at 224 and change ....and frazier at 215 lbs ....both guys past prime show me sum pics of ali v norton 2 ....or ali v frazier 1 and u will see a lot more definition bro

 

By your beyond moronic logic, Valuev vs Chagaev, Haye should've been like a CW vs a BW.

Strongmen contest is a more fitting sport for your IQ Level.

 

My IQ level is atleast good enough to understand the concept of weight classes...

 

Ali was 6''2 201 pounds lean.

 

Mr bodybuilder looked at this pictures of 201 pounds Ali and gave him 15%BF

 

By your understanding of the concept of weightclasses, Valuev vs Chagaev/Haye was like a cruiserweight vs bantamweight. By your understanding of the weight classes, Chris Byrd vs Vitali/Tua was like a WW vs a LHW, the same Goes For Lewis/Holyfield. Lewis won both fights clearly, but they were competitive. So, by your understanding of the concept of weight classes, Terence Crawford can go the distance and be competitive with Sergey Kovalev the same way old, past it Holyfield was competitive with Lewis.

So no, your IQ level is far from it.