People who think James Toney has no little chance against the Klitschko's

OK, now I see why you are being such a little *****...

When I said Toney outclasses WLAD's opponents, I meant according to WLAD's resume...how quickly WLAD disposed of them, compared to how long Chef says it would take to stop Toney.

...you miss understood what I meant by "outclasses," in realtion to the WLAD's resume and CHEF's prediction...

I'll try to be more clear in the future...now go back to f*cking with "QuietManLove" Ruiz...

 

Toney said he beat Rahman Twice and Peter twice. He lost the fights. You need to pay more attention to what you type.

 

Well, Toney was competitive with the best heavyeights. He arguable beat the second best heavyweight in Peter in their first fight. He has a draw with Rahman and stopped Holyfield who at the time was number 5 in the ring magazine. Isn't that amazing enough for a guy who started out as a middleweight.

 

Everyone has an opinion on the Peter fights...to be more than fair you can say James had a definite loss, and a possible win, in the pair of matches...

Even Uncle Manny Steward, says that James Toney deals with defeat by denial, always has and that's just his make up.

The first Rahman fight...yes Rahman narrowly outlanded James, but Rahman threw well over 100 kidney puches, I'll find the stat later, but it was an insane amount. Toney however landed the more effective blows...I would have Rahman winning that 1st one slightly, but the draw is more than justifed, when factoring how Hasim was able to go unchecked with a vicious illegal tactic all night...If Hasim didn't do that, he would have lost.

Toney had him in the 2nd fight, not even worth discussing unless you hate Toney...let's settle it like this, here's what Rahman said following their 1st encounter...

...it doesn't get any better than this, it's the fighter's themselves respect Toney...Take it away Hasim...

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Not reallly when you consider Bryd Smoked Holyfield. Also Hasbeen Rahman is not a good fighter. **** Grandpa Holyfield beat Rahman. Rahman, Holyfield, and Peter were not the best heavys Toney could have fought. So you fight or what?

 

Im just saying he talks like he is at the same level he was when he beat Jirov. Plus i had Toney whoppn fat Peters ass in the 1st fight. Toneys jab, right straight and combinations punchs were killing Peter.

 

Toney is a bad man, who has been put himself through some difficult times...he is legit HW.
You don't have to like him, but **** even Sam Peter still says James Toney is the greatest boxer in the world. Hasim called him the greatest counter puncher in the world. James is going to start weighing 220, and he's going to f*ck up the people that have been sleeping on him.

He would thoroughly school David Haye...and the fact that he only does enough to beat the Batchelders of the world, has no bearing on it...that's just the way James is.

 

This is not 2001 anymore it is 2008 and Toney is 40 years old he is not going to be beating any Heavyweight that is worth anything. Rahman is a Glass Jawed joke. How would Toney do against any of the beltholders right now? I do not see him beating any of them.

 

I think he would have beat IGGY, in a much better fight than WLAD gave us.

He already showed he can go with Peter, and I wouldn't be suprised to see a part III down the line.

Haye is about to get a shot, and Toney would defeat him.

Ruiz might win his belt back, and Toney has already beat him.

Chagaev is the next VITKLIT, never making it to the ring.

Valuev...**** I don't know how James would handle him, he can probably use his upperbody movement to make Valuev miss, while scoring to the body...

...So basically he loses to WLAD...???...is that it...??? Chef says Toney would last longer than most of WLAD's challenger...:yep

 

Toney is too damn small, not to mention old, for Wlad. Wlad would give Toney a serious beating. I think it'd be Toney's first stoppage defeat.

Brittley on the other hand, wouldn't beat Toney. He wouldn't even beat training camp, so he couldn't beat his scheduled opponent.

 

Iggy is not a beltholder right now so that point is moot.

Toney had to cheat and use steroids to beat Ruiz did you forget that?

If Chagaev does not make it to the ring he will be stripped what does that have to do with James Toney being able to beat him?

Toney would not beat Valuev. Too much of a size difference.

You are really reaching and bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with James Toney being able to beat the CURRENT beltholders which I do not see him beating any of them not even the limited Sam Peter.

James Toney is too old and steroid addicted, injury prone, and fat to beat the top 3 or 4 Heavyweights. No doubt he was going to beat Rahman in their last fight but Rahman is a washed up Glass Jawed joke who has not won a meaningful fight in years.

 

When referencing the Klits, Toney is all talk. He had a chance. He said no. Pretty blatant.:hi:

 

I'm not reaching...it's your argument. The only belt holders right now are WLAD and Peter, that's why I named others. Chagaev can't get to the ring.


Sure Toney was stripped, but he beat Ruiz.

Some think Toney can beat Peter, some say he did.

You don't think Toney beats WLAD, but Chef says that he lasts longer than most of WLAD's challengers...so I don't see what your problem is.

There are two active belt holders, and he's proven he can be competitve with one of them...you seem to strongly dislike James, that's fine. You should learn to respect his ability though.

 

Wlad beats Toney now. Maybe a Toney of 3-4 years ago at Heavyweight had a good sht at beating Wlad. Toney has had a long career and some tough fights Wlad would be one step to far, and could seriously do James so harm manily because James chin, pride and heart would keep him up probably the whole 12 rounds. Unless Wlad decides Toney provides no threat to KO him and he unleashes fury on James in a bid to have peple claim Wlad will stand toe to toe and trade!

i would have loved to have seen a Tua who fought Ibeabuchi fight Wlad!

 

...would have been a short fight. IKE would have made short work of WLAd also.