People who Want Marquez over Mosley or Berto at 147 are STUPID!

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  1. mikeweavertime

    mikeweavertime Active Member Full Member

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    It is official, people have lost there minds. I am sick in tired of hearing how Juan Manuel Marquez deserves to fight Manny Pacquiao at 147 because of their history.

    Here is a fact for the stupid people out there. Juan Marquez is a great fighter. No doubt. But he is NOT A 147 POUND WELTERWEIGHT FIGHTER. He would not be able to beat any of Pacquiao last 3 opponents. It just is not happening.

    Do people really believe Marquez beats Berto or Mosley at 147? Do experts really believe this? Then if they don't believe, which none do. Then why should Pacquiao fight the least competitive foe at 147 that he can fight.

    It boogles my mind. Juan Manuel Marquez just got dropped by a lightweight. Come the heck on people. Does anybody have any common sense anymore.

    Manny Pacquiao is NO LONGER a Lightweight. He is a WELTERWEIGHT and he should fight welterweights.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac can still make 140 easy. Fact is it wouldn't change a damn thing. Marquez is not a JrWW either and has never even fought there.

    JMM should prove he still has it and is a force at 140 against one of the young guns. I don't think coming back from a Mayweather beatdown to beat Juan Diaz by decision and Katsidis makes him a worthy challenger at all.

    And no, I don't think Mosley is a worthy challenger either.
     
  3. mikeweavertime

    mikeweavertime Active Member Full Member

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    No doubt Pac can make the weight. I think all opponents they are being questioned have flaws.
     
  4. TheRoadWarrior4

    TheRoadWarrior4 Active Member Full Member

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    JMM has always had Pac's number, and the size difference is NOT as big as you think it is. I don't care if they fought at 160, Pac's legacy will always be tainted in my eyes until he beats Marquez convincingly.

    It is VERY CLEAR that Pacfans, Uncle Bob, Michael Koncz, and Freddie Roach, would rather make a joke fight against Mosley and that is laughable.
     
  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Should fight welterweights :lol::lol: Ironic who was the last true welter he faced ?
     
  6. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's a WW who they keep saying is small and can't drop a few pounds to fight JMM but makes his opponents drop pounds..
     
  7. mikeweavertime

    mikeweavertime Active Member Full Member

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    I disagree. Mayweather whitewashed Marquez. He also whitewashed Mosley. The only difference in both fights is Mosley almost knocked Mayweather out in round 2 while Mayweather almost knocked Marquez out in round 2.

    The point is all fighters have flaws coming into a Pacquiao fight. The only fight that makes sense is Mayweather but he doesn't want to fight.
     
  8. TheRoadWarrior4

    TheRoadWarrior4 Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think using fights against Mayweather as a measuring stick is right. At least JMM has come off his loss and looked good since. Mosley looks like shite, and the entire Pac nation was calling him washed up BEFORE he looked like garbage against Mora.
     
  9. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    :patsch so if JMM dont deserve than what the fuk did Margarito deserve??:huh

    lmfao..and if mosley is not a "worthy" challenger than what the fuk was clottey and margarito

    SHANE MOSLEY IS MORE DANGEROUS TO MANNY THAN MARGARITO OR CLOTTEY...:deal
     
  10. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I want a 140 lb fight vs Marquez.

    It makes the most sense.
     
  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Margo beat Clottey, Cotto, Cintron at 147.

    Now tell me, wtf has JMM done at 147? Apart from getting a hiding then running back down to 135. Would have been different if he was jumping from 135 to 147 for the first time, as his performance there would be unknown, but we know, he knows that he's not suited for 147...yet he's seeking a fight there?

    Let him beat a top 10 contender at 140/147...
     
  12. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    who the fuk said anything about 47?:huh AND LIKE IT OR NOT THOSE 4 WINS OVER CLOTTEY, COTTO, AND CINTRON ARE IN SHADOW PERIOD:deal

    And as for "seeking a fight"...cmon now....i could care less about the weight..bottom line is he gave pac 2 hard fights and won more rounds than the best fighter in the world today in 2 fights.....

    BY NO MEANS AM I SAYING HE IS A MORE "DANGEROUS" OPPONENT THAN SHANE OR ANDRE..

    HOWEVER, Pac has not fought him for a reason...
     
  13. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Luke I think PAC should make a point and do it at 144..

    HE COULD MAKE A HUGE POINT IF THEY DO IT AT 44 AND BOTH MAKE THE WEIGHT.. :rofl:rofl
     
  14. rocky538

    rocky538 Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Mosley was outclassed by Mayweather and arguably lost to Mora, I think you're pretty stupid bro. A top fighter should take on the best opponent and an opponent on a winning streak, not a fighter who has lost his last two fights that's pointless to fans.

    Berto/Martinez/Marquez are the best available opponents.
     
  15. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah people judge on paper.jmm and manny have a great rival but jmm at 147 is a no can do or win for him.mosley would have a punchers chance because he will atleast fight back, with decent defence and speed.only good thing about mosley is he still has his power, thats always the last thing to go when a great fighter like mosely starts to fade.mosley i think would do better then cotto and margo if he fought manny.but we all know margo and cotto's rds winning against manny was slim even if you put them together againt only one if manny fights with them.the off paper and the best challenge for manny or really anyone at 147 i think would be better, not saying he would win but he would challenge manny or floyd in ways they have not been challenged in while if ever.