People who would beat Prime Liston.

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  1. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Member Full Member

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    thats bull thats just another way to say as a so called expert opinion dream matches is not just simple as a man said this so he is right cause he can be wrong

    matches have to be looked at how people look at how the fighters fight and breakdown how they would do based on the skill and style used in vids

    im tired of that dumb quote it's always been dumb I still see it people say I take ali or larry Holmes word im like can you people judge vids for yourself

    why does a person words matter cause nobody words matter to me on a match and never will I have my own mind
     
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  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who's on Vitali's resume to make you think he'd handle Sonny Liston
     
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  3. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Active Member Full Member

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    Hard to tell given Liston spent his career beating cruiserweights and light heavyweights but maybe Gomez would be a good gauge
     
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  4. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya Member Full Member

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    This: "Educated and well versed in Boxing, or a part of Boxing" (-Wiki.)

    For instance - if you can name all of the Lineal Heavyweight Champions in order (from memory) I would probably consider you knowledgeable about Heavyweight Boxing. Of course there are other ways where I might believe a person is knowledgeable. For instance - A former Boxer or Trainer. Or someone who obviously has studied boxing extensively (a boxing reporter or owner of a well known boxing magazine or a book writer who researches extensively).

    Edit: The bold type was unintentional and I do not seem to be able to shake it off. So I am not very knowledgeable about fonts. :p
     
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  5. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Active Member Full Member

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    A lot of boxing writers would pass your test but they don't understand the sport at all. See Bert Sugar.
    There isn't one man on Liston's resume who would beat VK.
     
  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And who on Vitali's resume would beat Liston?
     
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  7. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Active Member Full Member

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    They did not fight in black and white so they won't win any fantasy fight in this forum. Sanders for one would do well against Liston.
     
  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On what basis? His stoppage losses to Rahman and Nate Tubbs?
     
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  9. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Active Member Full Member

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    He is a big power punching southpaw.
     
  10. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Vitali knocked the snot out of Sanders, Liston would have made him completely unconscious.
     
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  11. moneytheman12

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    you used the right word fantasy cause when I say stuff I dont say it as it couldnt happen I say it as fact from the vids

    I know people here really are crazy they really believe son could beat the names I put even though vid shows he didnt have the defense speed or footwork to beat em
     
  12. moneytheman12

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    wrong like I said words or resume cant change how a fight would go i already said why words dont matter they can be bias or just plain acting of blindness

    like people who say this quote which is a lie ali and larry said earn hit the hardest yet it's been harder hitters sense then who can cause damage with less punches or cause pain that continues in the next round

    which means its harder hitters
    or saying this how joe louis could beat real skilled hw when he couldnt and its crazy to say he would when he stuggled with the trash skilled dudes he fought

    so no words dont mean nothing at all a trainer or boxer who seen that boxer in person could say theh could beat somebody does it make it true it's a opinion and should be took as that only

    they could say like I said louis or george could beat those big names but when looking at how boxers fight we can see they cant be certain fighters cause of the limited defense and footwork

    people like you brainwashed like other followers no mind of your own acting blind

    in your mind if a trainer or boxers friend say they fight at lw only if they go hw they would win most likely they dont but sense a person's word is godly to your type it makes it true stop the bull and use your own mind
     
  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is that really the best you can come up? :lol: vague and disingenuous.
     
  14. moneytheman12

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    he thinks son was skilled even though he stuggled with people lesser then ali but can beat vk who was more skilled then those lesser dudes who gave son trouble
     
  15. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Active Member Full Member

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    Better than "Liston is great because jab".