People who would beat Prime Liston.

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Or get this, maybe just MAYBE, it's because Liston was a force in his era that brutalized almost everyone he stepped in the ring with before he faced Ali ? Don't get me wrong i find Liston overrated too but you're pretty clueless when it comes to classic boxing.
     
  2. Bumnard_Hopkins

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    Look at Liston's resume. Every HW champion after him would crush all of Liston's opponents.
    Classic boxing is clueless when it comes to "boxing", "logic" and "evidence".
     
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    EVERY HW champion after him would crush all of Listons opponents ? I don't think I'd favor Ken Norton, Pinklon Thomas, Herbie Hide, Tommy Morrison or Bruce Seldon to beat Cleavland Williams just to name a few

    Liston did feast on mostly cruisers but every champion after him ? No
     
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  4. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd bet on the following against prime Sonny: Great boxers (Ali, Holmes, maybe Johnson.) Great Boxer-Punchers (Louis, Holyfield, Lewis). Foreman, maybe Jeffries.There may be others who would have beaten him by taking him deep, but I wouldn't be putting any money on it.
     
  5. Gazelle Punch

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    Great post Swag. There are very few id pick to win. Ali Louis Lewis…and that’s it. Even Louis I hesitate but I think his speed would beat Liston to the punch everytime. I would never count out the likes of Holmes Marciano Tyson Frazier Liston and Wlad to put up a good fight and maybe even split a few wins. But I wouldn’t bet on them.
     
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  6. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Thats a fact and really a problem assessing Liston H2H. Lack of knowledge how he´d do against modern 215+ HWs. Because of it, I would make most HW ATGs that came after him as the favorite.

    Thats a problem, correct.

    For example, I might choose Corrie Sanders to stop all the fellows Liston stopped. Or Frank Bruno. Or Ernie Shavers. Lemon Brewster. Or even guys like McCall, Rahman or early Ray Mercer. Most certainly David Tua for example. Question is would it be as decisive ? Two one-round wreckings over Patterson?

    But yes, 190-CW Floyd Patterson had a "chin problem" also...
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

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    Maybe but not EVERY heavyweight champion after him, also i don't think bruno would beat Cleavland Williams, i think Williams speed would give Bruno serious issues and he'd eventually land a bomb, though i wouldn't confidently pick williams.

    But that is the truth, Liston feasted on cruiserweights, LHWs and you occasional heavyweight i guess, he's never fought any decent big guys like Bowe, Vitali or Lewis or even guys like Sanders or Golota
     
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  8. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    I was talking about ATGs.

    Best versions of

    Foreman
    Holmes
    Tyson
    Holyfield
    Lewis
    Wlad
    Fury

    I´d pick him to beat Frazier pretty sure.

    Younger Bruno went 5 Tyson and 7 with young aggressive Lewis, while Williams could be hurt pretty quickly. Believe Bruno was more durable, but yes, Williams would have a speed & agility advantage.
     
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  9. Balder

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    Cooney blast him out in 2.

    Mercer vs Liston would be a dream fight.

    Vitali and Wlad would both KO him.
     
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  10. moneytheman12

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    none of those louis era dudes would compete with son or any other big name in 70s it's dumb to say they would
     
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  11. moneytheman12

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    wonder why people rank son high h2h vs skilled boxers he wasnt hard to hit slow bad footwork he is not top 10
     
  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone please ban this man
     
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  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HOW THE HELL HAS HE MADE IT 7 MONTHS?
     
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's got the staff members hostage or some **** there's no way he's been here 7 months
     
  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: this made me laugh out loud.