Pep Vs Pac at 126

Nice. I can see saddler beating armstrong as well for the same reasons you gave earlier. How is this for a fantasy matchup? Saddler-Pedroza *salivating*

 

That's quite interesting style-wise. Both tall FW's, both skilled and dirty in-fighters. I've actually never thought about that one before.

How about Pedroza vs Sanchez?

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Wow, thanks for the link.:thumbsup

 

For anyone looking for any footage, here's a clip of Saddler vs fellow ATG Featherweight Flash Elorde. This was a past his prime Saddler, but you can still see how he implied his style. Whenever the fight is at range, you can see the edge Elorde holds, but whenever Elorde gets anything going in terms of landing clean shots from the outside, combos, etc, he puts himself within range, and every single time Saddler ties him up and uses his reach to land shots from all angles to the body and head. It's like the two outclass each other at different ranges, Saddler on the inside, Elorde on the outside.

edit: My fault, this was actually the second fight, which Saddler won by TKO in the 13th. You can see the rest on Youtube.

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Pep wins by easy UD....Pacs aggressive style would work against him

 

Great post.

 

he's wide open and getting slower. very few counterpunching. pac will make him pay :good

 

I agree we cannot underestimate the speed, power, stamina and aggression of the PACMAN. He was too fast at that weight and if he has the tools as he had right now it will be for KO sure, if he caught by left straight it would be lights out.

 

Saddler's not an outboxer, I said that before, that was where he was vulnerable, though not neccessarily vulnerable to getting hurt, just outboxed. If Pac was an outboxer, or one that could fight off the backfoot, it would be a possible foil to Saddler's style. Unfortunately, that is about the exact opposite of what Pac is. Pac's style is to go forward, using his speed and combos to overwhelm. And as you saw in that clip, anytime you got within arm's reach of Saddler, it was his game. Elorde actually had a better style for Saddler because he was able to use movement and box from the outside at times effectively, throwing punches from different angles, rather than throwing the same straight punches.

A top notch boxer off the backfoot, or one that could impose his style at times with movement and a good offensive arsenal of his own, were tough style-wise for Saddler. Elorde won their first matchup by 10 round Decision(against a well past his prime Saddler, mind you), and Pep won their rematch by Decision because of this, but normally, if you stood in range, Saddler would hurt you, extremely hard to avoid his reach.

 

In other words, Saddler would have had a helluva time with Mayweather, Whitaker, and guys in that mold, who while having different styles, were capable of adjusting and fighting while going backwards.

 

:good Much as I hate to say it, Mayweather would likely win a 12 round UD against Saddler at 130. If Floyd tried at any point to fight off the ropes or in the pocket, he'd be making a big mistake. He'd have a lot more success fighting like he did against Castillo in the rematch, and I honestly see a fight between the two mirroring that one at 130, though if Floyd is not on his bicycle damn near the whole time it would be more like the first fight between he and Castillo, with Floyd getting even more roughed up.

 

Sanchez, Saldivar, and Hamed would be a nightmare for Saddler.

 

What makes you say that?

I could see Sanchez winning a decision, but I could also see him losing. Sanchez was flawed, and was hurt by much lesser guys like Badillo when in the trenches, and Sanchez was not one to shy away from a fight. If Sanchez boxed, which he was very capable of, he would get the best of Saddler. Though Sanchez was never the type to keep a match at range. Tough call on that one.

Saldivar, very underrated great. Very skilled boxer, I could see him implying a style similar to Elorde, but then, Elorde was only able to win a Decision over 10 against a well past his prime Saddler, only to be TKO'd in the rematch. Saldivar was a boxer/fighter, which is why I wouldn't be so quick to choose him like I would pure boxer like Mayweather, or even a Camacho type fighter, as long as he didn't get cocky, which he always seemed to. The pure boxers would do a lot better than the boxer/punchers, or the types that liked to be in range.

Hamed? I disagree with this one. For one, he was far too limited technically, and wouldn't even attempt to box Saddler. Power-wise, sure he could cause him trouble, but he could do that to anyone, that doesn't mean he would, especially if he was going to try all that herky jerky nonsense against someone who would just tie him up like Saddler would.

 

Hamed would get his rythmn broken like pep did and he does not possess the mental fortitude to keep a consisitent gameplan against Sandy because of saddlers pressure. however, that damn power of his is a great equalizer and who knows how sandy would react to it.

I am probably thinking more of the more elusive super bantam version of hamed as oppossed to the power punching dependant feather in the latter part of his career.

It's very tough to pick against Sandy because after all, he beat quite possibly the best pure boxer ever in Pep more than once, and was a titanium chinned animal that could offset the power in the boxer/punchers.

He really strikes me as a preying mantis with his body and almost unbeatable fighting skills. It took peps best performance ever to beat him.

 

I agree on the Sanchez part but, sanchez from my pov, fought down to the level of his comp and seemed to up it against the elite(Gomez and Lopez) Lopez is pushing it though, maybe azumah as green as he was, can be considerd elite at the time?(short notice fight comes into play though)

You are right, it depends on which Sal shows up that night.