Pep Vs Pac at 126

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  1. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    Indeed. The obscenity of those posts were too much to read. He likes the attention i bet.
     
  2. El Puma

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    Of course not, he is quite srong and fast for a jr welter/welter on fight night.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Nope, I won't deny any of it, but that doesn't change the fact that Pep's style is all wrong for Pacquiao. Pacquiao's speed is more explosive, more to do with his handspeed, Pep's is more with his body and reflexes. I'd argue that Mayweather is slightly bigger and more explosive than Pea, but Pea is slicker and more skilled, just like Pep is to Pac. And Pac's style plays right into Pep's hands. His speed is the only thing that could cause problems for Pep.
     
  4. boxbox

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    Are you saying that PEP is almost like JMM?? because a lot of JMM's fans think that Pac's style plays right into JMM's hands...most people here think that currently, JMM is the guy to beat PAC because of their styles. I dont think they're similar thou. I believe its the other way around. Pac has fought a lot of fighters that are known to be slick and skilled but what happened was they couldnt adjust to Pacs' awkward stance plus the speed that goes with it..never mind the power for now because from waht i've seen in the MAB-PAC fight, i didnt see him rely on his power alone.
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Barrera is significantly more skilled than Pep.
     
  6. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it has something to do with Pep having 230+ fights compared to Pac's 50+.

    People gets blinded with these numbers, and then it comes to head to head matchup, people seems to think that if Pep is able to win 230 times in his career, on his given best night, he would be a monster over the poor Pac.

    It is proven that modern fighters gets more scrutiny, all the mistakes they make in the ring are fresh on the minds of fans whereas old timers aren't especially those whom are only seen on their highlight clips whcih is pretty much a compilation of them at their bests and not showing them at their worst.
     
  7. El Puma

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    Possibly because you have no idea about these old era fighters and when has ANYONE posted in this thread about records?

    You Pac fans are the most biased and racist fans i have ever had the displeasure of dealing with.
     
  8. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What a useless point.:patsch

    Answer is yes, so does that mean anything?

    He weighs much higher than 130 lbs by fight night because it is allowed. If it is clearly known in the rule that it is not allowed, OF COURSE HE WILL ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

    Or are you implying that Pac can't make 130 by fight night whereas the superman old timer could?
     
  9. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really? So must know him very well, huh?

    Tell us what are his weaknesses in the ring (don't tell me he has none), and why did he lose to some of the fighters in his career.
     
  10. El Puma

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    You are a ****ing moron. It is a hypothetical question that applies to all modern era fighters who fight 2-3 weight classes smaller than they really should thus, giving them an unfair advantage.

    You know for a fact Pac can compete back then in the era of same day weigh ins right? Thank you for cementing my point in how stupid,narrow minded and biased you fanatics are.
     
  11. El Puma

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    Why? The logic would be lost on your feeble mind and only Pac has no weaknesses according to you morons.

    Pac ko1 anyone!!! Duuuurrrrr!!!!!:verysad
     
  12. PacDbest

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    A lot of you guys here brag you know stuff & branded some of us Pac fans generally as we don't know our boxing. All of us here are not created equal. Some are knowlegeable, some are just Plain stupid.

    Most of us here are in the 20s to 40s. Very few or very rarely you'll find guys here on their 50s or 60s or in the 70s. So basically nobody here can claim they saw Pep & Follow Pep in his Prime in the 1950s. All we know was Pep's Boxing record from(Boxrec) & those video footage we equally have an access in youtube.

    So it is a matter of opinion. Everyone has their own. But who do you want to believe here in ESB?? Of course those guys with Great reputation who has Good calls in the recent fights in the Past. Namely your's truly, Pacdbest & some others like Huki, Chimba, Dangerous & sometimes KG to name a few.

    In my expert analysis Pep was sucessful in his era because he's quicker & technically good than most fighters in his era. But that era is also in the era where racial equality is just in infancy. I'm sure Pep was Paired against mostly whites bums & was manage to avoid real tough Black boxers in his time. How many Asians did Pep fought?? How many are Filipinos & Mexicans??

    Pac in this era fought the best in span of 7 wt class currently, against the best of the best of different races & Nationalities & came up on top impressively. So in my opinion Pac is well tested more than Pep.

    Physically Pac has the advantage against Pep as he is Taller, quicker, & stronger. Pac already fought skilled fighters like MAB, EM, Ledwaba & Sasakul & came up on top. Skills alone can't beat Pac. You gotta have Power & Chin also which Pep was short of. Pac definitely beat Pep IMHO by KO.
     
  13. El Puma

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    :patsch:patschHe fought Sandy ****ing saddler on more than one occasion. That alone debunks your assinine "expert analysis"

    Pep and Saddler are #1 and 2 ALL ****ING TIME GREATS at featherweight for a reason that has NOTHING to do with padded records and everything to do with the level of comp they faced,skills,and longetivety.:patsch:patsch
     
  14. El Puma

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    The only braggarts here are you morons who hop up and down like YOU won the fight instead of Pac.

    Show me proof where any of us "brag" about our boxing knowledge.

    Some real **** tinted glasses SOME of you pac fans "observe" through.
     
  15. PATSYS

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    You ****ing idiot.

    Unfair advantage to whom? The rule says they weigh 1 day before the fight. Both fighters know that. They know the rules when they train, they know it years before the fight.

    If Pac makes 130 1 day before and bloats 144, that is well within the rule. His opponent is well aware of that. If his opponent could have weighed much lighter than 130 during weigh in, if he is naturally much smaller than Pac then he has no buiness at 130, he should go down to 126 or so.

    You obviously have the 3rd Morales fight in your mind my pointing out Pac's fight night weigh in. Guess what you ignorant ****, Morales was the one who is complaining about making 130 and even tried to persuade the fight to happen at 132 lbs.

    If he decides to weigh in only at 139 compared to Pac's 144, that is is own decision.

    So you asked a hypothetical question and expect a FACTUAL answer? Your IQ is that of a moron.

    And are you sure that Pac can't?

    The guy fought from 108 lbs, he made 122, 126 lbs before. His work ethics is 2nd to none. What makes you think he can't make the same day weigh in if that is in the mindset when he fights as pro??

    Again you are a mother ****ing idiot who thinks old timers are super human.