Performances at Lightweight...

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That made you scratch your head... and just say "wow"...

    Duran v Dejesus 2 or 3
    Chavez v Rosario
    Williams KO 6 Beau Jack

    The above mentioned are major headliners...but the performance that blows me away is Ismael Laguna's title winning effort in his first fight with lightweight ATG Carlos Ortiz. Laguna was incredible.

    What are some of favorites of the board?
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Duran vs DeJesus 2 & 3...and both of Buchanan's victories over Laguna.
     
  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carlos Ortiz' absolute dominance over Joe Brown
    Rodolfo Gonzalez' demolition job on Chango Carmona
    Sean O'Grady's whirlwind attack on Hilmer Kenty
    Alexis Arguello's methodical breakdown of Boom Boom Mancini
     
  4. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ad Wolgast's sheer refusal to yield in his 'no rules' bout with Battling Nelson was a marvel, beating him after 40 (fast-paced) rounds.

    After a beating at the hands of Jack 'Kid' Berg in 1930, Tony Canzoneri came again the following year and knocked him flat in three. A prime example of that power and his favourite tale when later part of a comedy duo.

    Pernell Whitaker against Ramirez II, Haugen or Nelson. All very impressive.

    Manny Pacquiao wasn't too shabby against David Diaz.
     
  5. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He certainly showed his talent, but Brown also showed his mileage.

    Old Bones at his best is a much tougher assignment.
     
  6. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At their best I would still go with Ortiz, but I think it would be one helluva close decision. I chose this one because of the sheer dominance, which I don't believe anyone saw coming even if they picked Ortiz to win.
     
  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Livingstone Bramble over Ray Mancini.

    Boom Boom certainly had his vulnerabilities as a face-first fighter who was always going to be in wars and take punishment, but I didn't see this one coming.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Williams said his best performance was a win over Bolanos. He stated he would back himself against every lightweight that ever lived on that showing.
     
  9. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is fair.
     
  10. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    beat me to it :)

    still not finished your book brother...a full review will be placed when i do....a wonderful body of work it is.
     
  11. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    i have a slight fascination with elbows mcfadden....and this one popped into my head right away without thinking (mcfadden v joe gans 1st fight)....

    this is a piece written by Patrick Connor...


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    Both men were in a fine state, essentially in peak condition. Betting odds were simply described as even or “tight” by press in days leading up to the bout, but McFadden came in a full five pounds below the contracted 133 lb. limit, and betting moved to 2-1 in favor of Gans by fight time.

    The odds were justified early on, with Gans clearly demonstrating superiority in both defense and accuracy. Looking amateurish in comparison, McFadden’s swats actually drew forth chuckles from the crowd, who “laughed in derision,” said The Sun. Gans’ jab was carrying much of the action, and he managed to nearly put McFadden down in round 5.

    Rounds 6 through 9 saw McFadden making considerable progress, however, by plowing forth and negating Gans’ reach advantage. And though McFadden was outweighed, his connects appeared to be having a more palpable effect on Gans by round 10 as he clinched, then sucked wind in the clinches. The Sun again reported, “Gans’ nose was bleeding when he got half way through the thirteenth round. His blows lacked force and he appeared to be tiring. McFadden was strong as a bull.”

    The 14th round saw Gans get busy, leading and countering as he saw fit, but it was short-lived, and McFadden began to wear down his man in the following rounds. Moreover, McFadden’s defense had matched that of Gans in the early rounds, and Gans’ condition deteriorated as a result. By round 20, Gans was all but spent, and Al Herford and Jack McCue in his corner were downcast at the impending loss of their fighter. McFadden was doing his damnedest to end matters, but Gans somehow kept himself just this side of consciousness while swaying and leaning over every inch of the ring. Round 22 had Gans doing next to nothing, while McFadden tried desperately to punch his ticket home, and almost did.

    The Sun described the 23rd and final round as follows: “Gans threw in a few weak counters, and then received a stomach punch that threw him forward. Quick as a flash McFadden brought up a terrific right hook. It caught Gans flush on the point of the jaw. The Baltimore fighter tottered a moment, and then fell flat upon his face, the blood gushing from his mouth. There was no need of counting him out for he was helpless, and had to be lifted to his chair. The referee declared McFadden the winner amid an unusual demonstration. Hats and canes were thrown in the air. Men hugged one another in their ecstasy and others yelled wildly for the money they had won. McFadden was embraced by his friends, and was cheered all the way to his dressing room. When Gans was able to leave the ring he was applauded generously, too. It was one of the best fights ever seen in this vicinity.”
     
  12. doug.ie

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    i should add the sidenote that gans had just come off an illness that laid him up before going into that fight.
     
  13. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very appreciated. I hope you enjoy it.

    Wolgast-Nelson is the antidote to those who believe every old timer merely waltzed about and threw two punchers per round. I believe Wolgast started his epic comeback some time after the 22nd. No rose-tinted specs. Just surreal stamina.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    Edwin Rosario's second round KO of Bramble was sensational.

    I think, somehow, Julio Cesar Chavez domination of Rosario gets somewhat overlooked now. Incredible performance.
     
  15. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    you will know all this....and not my words...just repost of stuff i find...
    hope to god mods dont get all childish over me linking to another forum (i originally posted it here but cant find it)

    http://goo.gl/OxsSVM