Performances that don't get their due because they were too dominant?

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  1. Mike Gould

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    Salvado Sanchez-Wilfredo Gomez
    Johnny Tapia-Danny Romero
    Carlos Zarate-Alfonso Zamora
    Marco Antonio Barerra-Naseem Hamed
    Mike Tyson-Michael Spinks
    Lennox Lewis-Mike Tyson
    Lennox Lewis-Andrew Golota
    Donald Curry-Milton McCrory
    Mike McCallum-Julian Jackson
    Julian Jackson-Terry Norris
    Bernard Hopkins-Felix Trinidad
     
  2. Mike Gould

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    One more...Joe Calzaghe-Jeff Lacy
     
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  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Disagree about Barrera--Hamed. Barrera was given the highest praises for what amounted to an 8-4 type fight where each guy was landing in single digits per round.

    Tapia also got lots of credit for Romero.
     
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  4. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Óscar Dela Hoya at 130/135, people forget that he beat good fighters like Molina, Paez, Leija , Ruelas and Hernandez at those weights.
     
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  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Joe Frazier vs Jerry Quarry and Jimmy Ellis.
     
  6. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Few highlights on Roy beating then P4P#1 James Toney makes me think this dominant performance will rarely be seen or discussed as a great fight.

    Not sure how Carlos win over Paul Williams was viewed. I think some saw it as a fluke, but it was Quintana's fight from bell to bell.

    Pac over Mosley. Pac hit him so hard, Shane refused to engage for the rest of the night. Yeah, Shane was past his best, but it was his heart that chose not to battle, not his age.


    Same with Lennox over Tua. Tua fought glove to mouth all night against the like of Ike, but something happened to him against Lewis. He tried his best to fight on whatever side of the ring Lennox wasn't on. Dominating to the point of boring. Rahman & McCall could drop him, surely Tua could. But he didn't want anymore of whatever it was that he tasted in the 1st few rounds. Dominant.
     
  7. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You could see how Hearns with his speed and leverage could stop Duran. I think Hearns vs. Duran shows how Duran before or after that fight never fought a guy like Hearns. Hearns was a legit great with speed and leverage. If you could take his punch that helped. Hearns after Hagler lost a step, but he still was great enough to keep winning titles.

    Foreman gets credit for Frazier and Norton. Those were no flukes.

    I agree with Larry and Mike. Mike broke down Larry and got close to him and was landing body punches and that opened up Larry for the right hand which sort of ended the fight. Same thing Evander never got credit for being Qawi was onesided as he did in the rematch. No one thought he would stop him.
     
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  8. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was a handpick like Hopkins over Pavlik or Winky. Hopkins was great, but he knew who he could beat and what pace of fighter he wanted to fight. I liked the way he formulated a gameplan. People ignore the fights Bernard lost in favor of who he beat. That is ok I guess, but to be honest he was a good handpicker. So was Mayweather. Floyd beat Canelo, yet I think Canelo is getting a better career than Floyd as far as resume and titles. And the fact he is not asking for a catchweight, which I think is cheating.
     
  9. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali v Liston 1
    By the scorecards it wasn’t an overly dominant performance from Ali, but he was doing a number on Liston in there.
    I always think it’s a very underrated performance from Ali, the ensuing years have concentrated more on Liston’s shortcomings, quitting, was the fight on the level etc.
    Ali had been decked by Cooper in his previous fight didn’t look good and was given no chance, yet he produced an extremely disciplined performance in there against an opponent considered a monster at 22 years of age.
     
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  10. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Monzon over Napoles is overlooked

    Foster brutally ko'ing Tiger is another

    Liakovich over Brewster is another one & the way he did it.

    Qawi just taking apart Saad Muhammad

    Moorer over Holyfield is always dismissed because of the Holyfield excuses when he loses

    Eubank stopping Benn in their first fight
     
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  11. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman completely obliterated the worlds hwt champion thought of as unbeatable AND the leading contender. In of itself it’s a HUGE deal. Add to this KOs over Lyle and Chavalo and a host of lesser names. Most fighters build their career fighting much lesser fighters.
     
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  12. Gatekeeper

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    Floyd-Canelo

    If that fight had never happened and someone on here in 2019 dared to suggest that Floyd could have beaten Canelo at 154 back in 2013 he'd be shouted down 'LOL, old man Floyd got no chance' ' Canelo too big and fresh' etc. etc.
    Well it happened and it was a schooling.
     
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  13. KeedCubano

    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

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    That gets the credit it deserves imo
     
  14. Loudon

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    I wasn't talking about me specifically, I'm talking about how his ego/antics went down with fellow fight fans and critics.

    I too don't think it would have made any difference.

    But why do it?

    It's the same with the Canelo win.

    He'd have gotten more plaudits had he have let Canelo weigh-in at 154. Yet he made him weigh-in at 152, which gave people the ammunition to suggest that he may have been drained.

    It was completely unnecessary.
     
  15. Loudon

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    Ward doesn't get huge credit because of Dawson's struggles with his weight.

    I think Tarver gets credit by most people, but everybody saw in their first fight that Roy was clearly a different fighter to the one he'd been previously.