True. But he was so naive that night. He stood off of him all night and wouldn't press him when he was on the ropes or in the corners. He needed to fight him like Oscar and Maidana did with pressure. But he just waited and seemed terrified of getting countered by Floyd's speed. And there's the unnecessary C-W.
I think the reason it is often overlooked (and in some cases dismissed, altogether) is because Marquez was a blown up career featherweight, who'd never weighed in above 135 before, whilst Floyd couldn't even be bothered to meet the contracted catchweight.
So why is lomas win against a 50 year old rigo held in such high regard by the same people dismissing the jmm win
You must have won a lot betting on this fight, right? Seeing how most didn't see what you saw and had Oscar as favourite.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Both Rigondeaux and Marquez were about the same age, at the time of the respective fights in question. Neither of them were 50 years old, though. Rigo was undefeated and his activity level had been as pedestrian as it had always been, up until his bout with Lomachenko, who was barely into double figures, in terms of professional outings. I couldn't say I've noticed exceptionally high praise for Loma's win over Rigo. However, this is probably due to the fact that anything Loma does seems to elicit a gush response from a fair few observers - something that seems to have gathered a life of its own, over time.
Kessler vs. Andrade; at the time a lot of American television viewers weren't familiar with either (I believe it was their mutual HBO debut) and just assumed the Viking Warrior was some pumped up Euro hype job being fed a Mexican ham-and-egger they'd likely never hear from again. As we now know, Kessler is a top 5 all time super middle...and Andrade proved to be a quite good if limited fighter, robbed in Montreal of a rightful KO victory over then highly toured and undefeated Lucian Bute.
I was only 5 at the time and didn't remember it but Ingo's beat down on Machen, in retrospect, seemed to have gone off the radar at that time. The following year Floyd fought Ingo a scant month after dispatching London and was a big favorite. Didn't anyone see a...possible...surprise here? Note: Ingo's resume prior to Machen wasn't too shabby either...
Around here, any Cuban fighter is automatically 10 years older than they say they are just ask Luis ortiz. Jmm is a borderline atg who was the #2 p4p fighter in the world when he fought Floyd. Rigo was inactive old and put forth a **** effort in the ring. Look at the threads about lomas win over rigo and see for yourself how much praise he got
I think Mayweather beat 7 guys on the pfp list and all have been dismissed in one way or another. In contrast, I think Crawford and Loma have beaten one guy on a pfp list in total, and it was a 38 year old and inactive Rigo who jumped two weightclasses.
The first 2 get their due. And rightfully so. Tyson vs Holmes doesn't get its due for obvious reasons. Not least of em, Holmes was 38, hadn't fought in 2 years, and had mere weeks to train.
I'm sure you'll understand why I'm not going to take your word for that. 'All-Time Greatness', borderline or otherwise, and a number-2 position in the mythical pound-for-pound ratings, at any given time, are not credentials that turn a career Featherweight and active Lightweight into a world class Welterweight, overnight. But one needs to believe that they do, in order for them to give Mayweather's corrupt catchweight victory over Marquez any credence, at all. Frankly, I fail to see what relevance Lomachenko's victory over Rigo and any positive reviews Loma received in response to this has anything to do with Mayweather/Marquez.