Pernell whitaker vs Dela hoya.

interesting point about defense it amuses me hows its so unappreciated by boxing judges and fans who ultimately want to see a guy go forward. In my opinions when scoring a fight like this when de la hoya lets loose with a 7 punch combo of which 0 punches land the points and credit should go to sweet pea as his defense bettered the offense and rendered oscars aggression ineffective
sweet pea was too good for his own good

 

Great post :good

 

That's because he spent too much time clowing and dancing around instead of fighting, no robbery against Oscar,it was close but I saw Oscar doing alot more, going after him from round one on and whacking him more times than some peopel give him credit for. I mean that lump on Pea's eye indicated that Oscar was tagging him during the fight.

 

The lump was on there by the 2nd round and Pea brusied easily. Whitaker threw more, landed more, landed at a higher percentage, and dropped Oscar. I'd say he did plenty offensively if we go by punchstats. Both fighters fought good defensively, Whitaker controlled the fight at his pace with his jab.

 

I had it 6-5-1 even +1 point for Whitaker because Whitaker also knocked DLH down. Close fight that on the surface was hard to score because DLH was the aggressor, although most of the fight he was stalking air. Whitaker did not fight with controlled aggression like he did when he dominated Chavez, and this hurt him with the judges, who were looking for any excuse to crown DLH.

I'll put it this way: Did DLH do enough to take the belt away?

 

no i dont think he did
glad this fight just got brought up i was watching the post fight interview of the two fighters which featured interesting quotes from de la hoya (oscar pretty much admits in this interview he's a cash cow and a more fashionable champion than whittaker)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lFV7B4ZYTPQ&feature=related

 

Neither fighter was 'embarrassed', it was a very close fight that could have gone either way. I personally had it 114-113 Whitaker (6-5-1, + KD/bull**** point deduction), although many of the rounds could have gone either way. Sweet Pea showed some insane defence against a very accurrate puncher, I don't think he got hit flush by a big shot the entire fight (mostly grazing). If he was a few years younger I feel he would have been able to mount a better offence and win the fight more clearly, in a way this performance kind of showed his greatness.

Not the most exciting fight, but a great tactical boxing match that could be argued either way.

 

What a surprise a boxer hits another boxer during a fight. Wow.

 

Whitaker is my fav boxer.
had dlh winning by 1rd it was close and i just scored that fight once.
i remember watching an interview with both pernell and dlh.. pernell asked for a rematch.. but yeah whatever happened later. the rematch never happened.

 

I think it was round 10 or 11 or so, Whitaker was saying to his trainers "I'm going to lose again".

 

This should be Pacman's blueprint to beat Oscar. Pac should learn from this. He's definitely younger and faster than Whitaker here. Whitaker was 35 during this fight.

 

I liked it when they were wiping the blood from Oscar's nose as the judges cards were being read out and Pea was celebrating on the ropes.


(Can't say I liked what happened a few seconds later though....)

 

I did not see DH landing plenty of clean punches, in fact he had a hard time landing a clean punch. The only clean punches were Whitaker's jabs. That being said, I agree with your scoring of 2 points in favour of Whitaker.

 

I agree with you here but the judges are professionals and should be able to determine if those DH flurries landed or not. They have been trained to do that. The casual fan may not be able to see the difference but I espect more from professionals.

I think that Golden Boy's reputaion had more to do with the outcome than anything. It was a dsigrace because Whitaker was a long time champion and did not deserve to be treated that way.

 

Those two factors made the fight very hard to call.