Pernell Whitaker vs Floyd mayweather jr.

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I agree. I would say that when oscar fought pea he was pretty dam close to his best. So close that him not having peaked yet shouldn't really be an argument.

Yes it was oscar first fight at the weight but its not like pea was a natural WW anyways.

Yes oscar was probably not as physically strong as he eventually became. But he wasn't far off. He was as quick as he ever was and (most importantly) didn't have the stamina problems that developed in his late twenties.

And as for green. Come on the guy had something like 250 amateur fights. A gold medal and three world titles at 2 different weight classes.
And wins over molina, ruelas, hernandez, Gonzalez, and chavez all world titlist. (to name a few)

 

One thing thats factually wrong that you state here. Mayweather did have a better chin than Whitaker. Mayweather has never been down as a pro, apart from touching down against Judah, which was not scored a knockdown, but should have been. Whitaker has been down many times. Although most were nothing knockdowns, usually little clips to the top of the head as he was squating down. Roger Mayweather, Buddy McGirt II, and Vasquez, some others I can't mind. I will however say that most of Whitaker's knockdown's were when he was a bit off balance when getting knocked down, usually squating down low. But knockowns. He was never hurt, and got up with imediate effect.

I don't have the stats on exactly how many times Whitaker was knocked down, but its between 4 and 6 times.

And regarding the knockdown he scored against De La Hoya. Thats exactly the type of knockdown I'm talking about which happened to Whitaker most of the time during his career. I watched the fight last week, and De La Hoya was clearly off balance and falling downwards before Whitaker clipped him with that little chopping left inside. I viewed the replay of it from different angles, and the aerial view clearly shows it was an off balance slip/knockdown. Correctly scored a knockdown, but it was helped with De La Hoya slipping and being off blance before the punch was delivered.

Whitaker UD over Mayweather.

 

Well I said that Whitaker had the better proven chin...not nessesarilly the better chin. That is arguable.

But if you look at who has been in there with the better fighters...its easily Whitaker. And if you look at who has been in there with the bigger punchers...its also easily Whitaker. In other words he has proven it...time and time again. And like you said, I have seen pretty much EVERY meaningful Whitaker fight and as you said, I have never seen him hurt (except vs Tito, but that was an old, past his prime, ruined by drug abuse, right out of rehab Sweet Pea).

Again, proven chin....

Again, I never said it was a big shot...or that he hurt Oscar with it. I stated that he dropped him...in other words a two point round. Couple that with the other things I stated about the fight and its exactly what I said...A close, but CLEAR UD for Sweet Pea.

DAMN RIGHT!!!

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I think Floyd beats Pea, but it'd be a close fight.

I think Floyd at that weight had more power and wasn't as hesitant as he is now in the larger weights to engage. Pea never fought a guy like Floyd, and I think Floyd gives Pea all kinds of problems.

I'm a huge Pea fan though, and I'd want him to whoop on Floyd, I just don't think he could.

 

No problem mate. I tried to add you on MSN dude, but don't think you use it, or you maybe declinded my invite as never knew who I was.

 

Nah I didnt decline it...I hardly ever use it (and its

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I should really update that damn profile, lol!

 

Mayweather win UD his defense is too good

 

Never saw Pea's defense have ya?

Trust me...its much better.

Like I said earlier....Sweet Pea is widely considered the best defender EVER...Floyd isnt even the best defender of this generation.

 

If anyone here wants Whitaker signed items, give me a shout. The guy I deal with was the first dealer to officially do a signing with him. He met Whitaker at the Mayweather v Gatti fight in June 2005, and Whitaker agreed to do a signing for him.

He's one of the biggest memorabilia dealers in the US.

Gloves
16x20 v De La Hoya
16x20 v Trinidad
8x10 standing in corner, signed by Whitaker and Duva.

 

floyd by UD no way pea beats him.

 

Whitaker and Mayweather are both great boxers. The way it should be done inside the squared circle. Complete prize fighters. None of this Chavez and Hatton coming straight ahead like bulls nonsene.

 

OH NO HERE WE GO!!!






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How much for an 8x10 or some gloves?

 

Have a look on my profile on here, and you'll see the link for his site.

Signed glove $60

8x10 in corner with Duva, signed by both $30

16x20 v Trinidad $40
16x20 v De La Hoya $40

All come with COA and photo from the signging with each item.

His link is on my profile, you'll see his website. He distributes to other dealers as well. He's without question the biggest in the US. Duran, Frazier, Barrera, Lopez, Lamotta, Carter, L Spinks, Holmes, and others.