Pernell Whitaker vs Vasyl Lomachenko

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by KeedCubano, Dec 24, 2021.

Who Wins and How?

  1. Whitaker KO

  2. Loma KO

  3. Whitaker PTS

  4. Loma PTS

  5. Draw

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  1. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 13, 2010
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  2. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Feb 2, 2006
    He would beat the crap out of Loma at his best.
    Two totally different classes of talent.
    And if wouldn't be close.
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  3. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Feb 2, 2006
    Paez would be a problem for Loma.
    Roger if he's at his best maybe because he had pretty good power and he's tall with a good reach.
    Nelson would run over Loma.
    Ramirez might not be fast enough.
    Greg wouldn't have enough speed or firepower.
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    Nah, ESB loves Eastern European fighters. Sweet Pea is better than any and all of them.
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free The Guys! F 12 & Goofies Stay Dangerous! Full Member

    Jun 23, 2005
    Beat me to it.
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  6. AWALK

    AWALK Super Featherweight Full Member

    Dec 17, 2021
    I gotta lean towards Loma. Loma knocked out Jose Ramirez in the fourth round, and Ramirez was one of the only people to beat pea.
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  7. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Jan 5, 2017
    loma looks like an absolute genius...until he doesn't.
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  8. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jun 15, 2010
    Sweet Pea, maximus overatus.

    The only question I have about this fight, and maybe you can help here?

    Would Pea run all night, counter clockwise, flicking the jab with minimal offence.

    or try and trade vs a quicker, more skilled, and smaller Loma?
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    Jan 13, 2021
    He was fighting in the pocket against Chavez (levels above Lomachenko at pressure fighting and hits harder than Lomachenko) and Nelson lmao Lomachenko has nothing for him. Those overrated angles that you fanboys rave about will get shut down by Whitakers footwork. Those same angles that costed him the fights against Salidoe and mediocre Lopez
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  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 29, 2012
    Why do people constantly miss stuff like this? I know it's to say, "Well, Pea would have obliterated Loma...." but FFS...Pea didn't blow out EVERY lesser fights he fought. Same w/ JCCsr
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    He'd likely realise Loma hates it downstairs and doesn't have the reach to score often enough if Whitaker walks him down. Best bet is he'd get inside and work the body, and keep the range with his jab from the outside like Teo did.

    And Lomachenko isn't quicker.
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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    It's funny, Lomachenko lost more rounds in one fight vs Teofimo Lopez than Whitaker did in both the Chavez and Nelson fights; two guys better than Lomachenko himself.
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  13. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis New Member Full Member

    Aug 27, 2020
    Jesus Christ...
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Sweat Pea KO1
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  15. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 23, 2017
    And yet, he's still inferior to Lomachenko OFFENSIVELY. Lomachenko probes better, feints better, has shorter punches, has more compact punches, can throw punches from more angles and so forth so on...

    Only pure nostalgia bias and hard-on for past-fighters would lead one to believe such is the case.

    It might be a highlight video, but just take a look at how wild, telegraphed and technically flawed some of Whitaker's punches were:

    You'd find some wild Wilder esque swings every few seconds

    Whereas here, you'd be hard-pressed to find even 1 or 2 wild, technically flawed swings from Lomachenko:

    Objectively, it becomes very quickly apparent and clear just how much more technically sound and proficient Lomachenko was in comparison to Pernell Whitaker, who threw pretty much no punch better than Lomachenko.

    Let's cut the celebrity worshipping and only evaluate the amount of techniques and the level of the techniques of the boxers, ignoring everything else about any of those boxers.

    Lomachenko's punches are clearly seen to be tighter, more compact, shorter and nearly every punch lands with the knuckles.

    Whereas Whitaker's punches are wild, wide, telegraphed and far more land with the palm, side of the gloves and etc.

    Offensively, these two guys are in different leagues altogether. Lomachenko is minimum 2 levels above Whitaker.

    And I've just covered punch technique / mechanics only. If we are to also examine other facets and nuances of offensive skills like feinting and probing, it becomes a massacre in terms of just how lopsidedly better Lomachenko is compared to Whitaker OFFENSIVELY.

    Funny how none of the guys claiming Whitaker is better have actually provided any actual arguments. Everything so far can be knuckled down to "Whitaker is better because I say so" or "Teofimo Lopez and Salido DOE" LMFAO!

    There's not a single thing Whitaker did better than Lomachenko, except for having better hip and upper-body flexibility.