Perspective on Wlad, and the HW division

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Loudon, Nov 15, 2014.


  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so you lied.

    thats all thats needed, thanks.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    No.

    I've already said that PEDS give clear advantages, otherwise people wouldn't take them.


    All I want you to do is to back up YOUR CLAIM.


    If you can't do that, then don't even bother responding.


    Once again:

    1. What PEDS did Roy take?

    2. How would it have been a given that GG would have beaten Roy, had he have taken them?
     
  3. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Roy Jones Junior took steroids, his abilities are chemically enhanced. If you cant SEE how steroids helps, a quick 5 second google search is your friend.
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    How so, when I've said that they give you clear advantages, otherwise fighters wouldn't take them?
     
  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Roy Jones physical performances are fueled by steroids, that is what you fail to understand. Just accept it.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I AGREE that they help.


    You make Todd look like Stephen Hawking.
     
  7. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    So you agree that Jones without them wouldnt have the speed or strength in his prime, and that he would have been knocked out earlier in his career without them? Good, we are making progress.
     
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  8. Loudon

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    PEDS don't give you the hand and foot speed that he possessed.

    Nobody knows exactly what he took, or for how long for.

    He passed 4 random tests after the Hall fight, and he still looked just as great as he did before, until he dropped back from HW at 35 plus.


    You're not fooling anybody here.

    It's quite clear what you're doing.

    You are desperately trying to avoid the questions that I have put to you.

    You are so desperate, you've had to resort to making up fantasy quotes as a diversion.

    You're just acting dumb (not a difficult task for you) in order to buy time.

    Your time has ran out.

    No more games.

    Answer the questions.


    If you don't answer them, we'll all know that it's because you can't.


    Either answer them or run along.
     
  9. mirkofilipovic

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    PED’s give you speed and power, especially steroids. Which is why athletes take them. Roy Jones athleticism was fueled by steroids, and just because he was caught once, it doesnt signify he hasnt been taking them before, drug testing at that time was a joke, just accept that you are flopping big time here.
     
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  10. Loudon

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    Roy had otherworldly speed and reflexes since being a JMW as an amateur.

    If you think he took them before Hall, that's fine.

    I don't have an issue with that, but it's speculation.


    Now kindly tell me why you think it would have been a certainty that GG would have beaten Roy, had he have taken the same PEDS.

    This is the 5th time I've asked you.


    Again, as great as he is, GG is easy to hit. We know this having watched his fights.

    Roy would have found him easily.

    Roy had a huge speed advantage, and a reach advantage.

    If you'd have given GG PEDS, yes, he'd have had an advantage. But not technically.

    There are no PEDS which would have improved his defence and stopped him from getting tagged.

    Kell had his head bouncing about. He has little head movement.

    He takes shots and he marks up.

    He's struggled with Jacobs.

    There are simply no PEDS available which would have prevented Roy from tagging him.

    Unless there's PEDS which would have made Roy's shots ineffectual, they wouldn't have been enough.
     
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  11. HerolGee

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    they dont give you speed. how do they increase reflexes?

    tell me how any PED increases reflex speed.

    dont you give me some nutjob reason like more muscle means more speed. I want a reason for the chemical influencing brain/neuron speed reflex.
     
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  12. HerolGee

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    so becasue he was caught one time, with an excuse, you feel fine to lie that you know he took them all the time?

    in that case vitali took peds all the time.
     
  13. HerolGee

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    u are agreeing with yourself, so you are making progress with one person, you.
     
  14. mirkofilipovic

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    Stop making a fool of yourself, Roy’s imperative attribute is his athleticism, something driven by steroids, in an era with no VADA, USADA or a global WADA standard in drug testing.

    Take away Roy’s speed and power, and he is a knock out waiting to happen. I believe his fragile mandible wont last the distance with Golovkin.
     
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  15. HerolGee

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    lying again, ok.
     
  16. Kevin Willis

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    Preferably somewhere with no Bears!
     
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