Perspective on Wlad, and the HW division

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    How heavily?

    Again, was he taking them in his teens?

    Go and watch him spar Lindel Holmes on YouTube.

    Was he using then?

    Was he using in the Olympic trials?

    Go and watch footage of him when he was 17.

    Go and watch toy with Gonzalez and Woods etc.

    Go and watch him against Ruiz.

    If his performances didn't dip, and he didn't look dramatically different after Hall, then how much of an affect did they have?
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Anyway, what's Kevin and Todd upto at Yusaf Mack's house?

    They've been gone ages.
     
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  3. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Steroids does affect your physical performance, this mental gymnastics you are playing is quite disappointing. Steroids have a long lasting affect on you, your body changes and becomes unnatural, this benefit lasts for years and years. There was no proficient or existing drug testing during Roy’s teen years or amateur years as a boxer.

    And just because he had dips in performances does not mean he stopped taking them or the affects disappeared.
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What is wrong with you??

    Where have I said that it doesn't affect your physical performance?

    I have agreed that PEDS give you physical advantages. But they don't give you technical advantages, and Roy didn't get his athleticism due to taking PEDS. He was born with it. His skills were honed under his father's brutal regime. You can say they enhanced his performances and you can speculate what and when he used. But you cannot say that he got his athleticism from taking PEDS. That's complete nonsense.
     
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  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    You said PED’s does increase performance, but refuse to acknowledge this is what fueled Roy’s athleticism, you cant be serious. You cannot go around this.
     
    mirkofilipovic, Oct 24, 2017
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  6. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What “technical advantages” did Roy have troll boy?? You’re obviously a Roid Jones Jr fanboy so you should know that he didn’t do a lot of things fundamentally correct and relied on what?? Speed and reflexes. What have PED’s been shown to help dip****?? :D

    I know I know... “But HOW MUCH do they help?! Where’s your proof that help?!”

    The ****er that talks about “INTELLECT” needs a presentation on how steroids work and doesn’t know how to use Google or research. Also... how many times was your hero Jones been dropped like a sack of potatoes and flatlined?? And how many times has GGG been?? Right:thumbsup: Pretty good for a guy who is so “easy to hit” huh?!

    I know I know... but that was PAST IT Roy at 35 and up huh? What happen to Roy’s “Technical Advantages” there try hard?? :D I mean couldn’t he just have fallen back on his technical brilliance?? Lol

    And LOOK AT YOU WITH THE PERNELL WHITAKER REFERENCE!! :rolleyes: Such a historian of the sport!! Lol

    “You won’t know who he is, so look him up.” Lol Wow... Just when I thought this ****ing dimwit couldn’t be any more cringe.
     
    Todd498, Oct 24, 2017
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  7. Phelps-Brady

    Phelps-Brady Slicker than Raspberry ripple banned Full Member

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    Great.

    You got trolled in 2014. 20+ pages on & your OCD still can't pull you of course...

    You admitted WK is a HOFer, so all this was a waste of time wasn't it? Move on lad..

    Get laid.
     
    Phelps-Brady, Oct 25, 2017
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  8. Phelps-Brady

    Phelps-Brady Slicker than Raspberry ripple banned Full Member

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    Jeezzz, that's poor man...

    Bloody awful in fact!
     
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  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    how is the skill level of duck and weave increased by PEDs?

    you just keep repeating the same thing. Its not a buddhist mantra, dude, you need to explain how.
     
    HerolGee, Oct 25, 2017
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  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you added nothing to the debate yourself.
     
    HerolGee, Oct 25, 2017
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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, if only I was as witty as you.

    "Get laid"

    Brilliant.

    Take a bow.

    That was real genius there.
     
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  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    The only time you're wasting is your own.

    I've told you why I made the thread.

    No, I wasn't trolled.

    It was targeted at specific posters.

    Again, I have no issue with Wlad.

    He will get in to H.O.F. and I wish he and Vitali were still in the mix.

    This thread is now 3 years old. The only reason I'm here, is because somebody has bumped it and I've had notifications from you and other members.

    I'll gladly move on.

    If you wish to do the same then don't quote me.
     
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    They are called performance ENHANCING drugs.

    I've acknowledged numerous times that they gave athletes ADVANTAGES, otherwise they wouldn't exist.

    That's not the issue.

    The issue, is where you keep saying that the PEDS GAVE Roy his attributes.

    Go and make up another quote you nut.
     
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  14. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    PED’s gave Roy his high level athleticism you nut! If you cant see this I cant help you.

    Your mental gymnastics are pathetic.
     
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  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    We only ever saw Mavrovic take on one truly top level fighter and he did pretty well. We've only ever seen Pulev fight one truly top tier guy and he got spanked. See where I'm going with this?
     
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