Perspective on Wlad, and the HW division

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Loudon, Nov 15, 2014.


  1. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It almost sound that you would favour Sanders and Purrity over this generation of HW's with that logic.

    And you are making it sound like modern top 10hw's all are cab drivers.i know you don't mean that however :good

    Everybody here of course use losses and wins,what suits for their agendas everytime.

    It's stupid that in boxing,being undefeated means so much.and especially if you are green and lose somebody who you don't suppose to lose.it's devastating.

    Of course the losses are always there.however one could think Sanders or Purritty would lose this version of Wlad.and also would never be in top 10.

    In reality,those losses means as much as Hopkins losing to Clinton Mitchell
     
  2. Wladschin

    Wladschin New Member Full Member

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    Horrible example. It would be more like Hopkins losing to a average guy during the mid 90's. Hopkins losing to Clinton Mitchell would be like Wlad losing to some guy when he was 4-0.


    Anyways............just like we would NEVER know if Wlad can beat Prime Tyson.

    WE WOULD NEVER KNOW IF WLAD CAN AVENGE HIS DEFEATS.
    We can only guess.
     
  3. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins never proved him against Mitchell,Pacquaio never proved him against Singsurat.

    Why this is so important?

    Should Wlad now go after Sanders and Purrity to prove something?or would you say it's too late.
     
  4. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We can only quess if Pacquaio could avenge his defeat to ATG Singsurat.

    Just stop please
     
  5. Wladschin

    Wladschin New Member Full Member

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    Wlad will never ever ever beat Sanders. It's not possible for Wlad to beat Sanders. He will forever be 0-1 against Sanders.
     
  6. Wladschin

    Wladschin New Member Full Member

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    You just don't get it. Jesus Christ.

    Wlad lost to Sanders and Brewster AFTER HE ALREADY BEAT CHRIS BYRD. AFTER HE WAS ALREADY RANKED AS A TOP 2 HEAVYWEIGHT.


    YOU SEE. Wlad was ALREADY the 2nd best Heavyweight in the World BEFORE HE GOT BRUTALLY STOPPED TWICE.

    Get it now? That's very different from suffering a early career loss like Hopkins did. Wlad was already established as one of the best Heavyweights in the World.
     
  7. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know what you mean by "great" but Wlad was an elite fighter in the early 00's. He was the ring mag's #1 contender to Lewis' title for two consecutive years. Notable wins during this time period were: Byrd,Shultz, Barrett, Bostice,Botha, Mercer,McCline, Shufford.
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No, again, he's a great fighter, period.

    I think it's equally ridiculous to suggest he's not a great fighter as it is to suggest he beats those guys with ease.

    Regardless of how strong or weak you think the division is, he's clearly a great fighter.


    I don't think there is a serious argument against that.


    :lol: No chance.
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you claim wlad is elite, and then substantiate with a chain of below world level fighters.

    excepting byrd, who is a world class/elite LHW, but something less at HW.

    its like, you destroy your own arguments, theres basically no need to counterague with you.
     
  11. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Keep saying it why don't you. Maybe it will come true:lol:

    *****s call Mayweather 'TBE'. Wake me up whenever that becomes reality.
     
  12. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Here's the deal.... Povetkin-Tackom and Steverne - Arreola were good fights.

    Povetkin-Wlad was one of the worst of all time and Arreola vs Wlad would likely be the same.

    You know well that Wlad would have been all over Arroela's back, fouling every 10 seconds.

    How come Bermane was able to pick Arroela off without a single bear hug or cheating tatic?

    Tackam out boxed Povetkin for the first half of the fight in ways Wlad couldn't come close to.

    When these guys fight , they don't show Wlads greatness, they show his limitations and dependence on cheating.
     
  13. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Wlad has to be praised for what he has accomplished but I think the day he meets another big heavyweight with a decent chin who is not afraid to throw punches he will meet his demise
     
  14. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    Like a Wach or McCline or Thompson, you mean? Yeah he'd get starched without having a big height advantage.
     
  15. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    3 nothing men who never got within a hairs reach of winning a title.