Pete Rademacher, worst management ever?

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  1. SolomonDeedes

    SolomonDeedes Active Member Full Member

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    It's easy to forget now just how seriously Rademacher was taken at the time. For a while it genuinely looked like he was going to get a second shot at Patterson in 1958 without even having to win an eliminator. When he did fight Zora Folley he was only narrowly the underdog.

    March 1958, he wrote a magnificently arrogant letter to the press in which he condescended to fight the number one contender, just to remove any lingering doubts that he deserved his rematch with Patterson:

    Although it is not necessary for me to fight anyone prior to a second engagement with Patterson, I feel it is only fair to my backers, to Mr. D'Amato, to the general public and to the National Boxing Association that I prove myself, beyond the shadow of a doubt, a logical and fitting contender for the heavyweight title of the world.

    https://ibb.co/8BZv0f0
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    TL/DR: “If you insist that I kick Zora Foley’s behind before I whup Patterson in the rematch, I will do so even though it’s really not necessary.”
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Sounds like Adrien Broner.
     
  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm? so he took the title fight to grab some cash, okay but why fight Zora Folley after getting ko'ed? It was a fight he had to have known he had no chance of winning. Also if he was not going to have a career why did he continue to fight for 4 more years losing 4 of his last 6 fights finishing his career at 15-7-1 with 8 ko's.? Strange inconsistency
     
  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I totally agree, Patterson would dominate Frazier in his pro debut. As for Teofilo? His is always the great what if he'd turned pro story. This reminds me of the story when Roberto Duran met Fidel Castro once and Duran was asked how he thought Stevenson would do against Muhammad Ali. Duran reportedly replied , 'are you kidding? Ali would kill him" That was the end of the meeting. And in my opinion that is what would happen to virtually any heavyweight making his debut against a legit champion.
     
  6. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Solomon Deedes post above kind of expounds on Rademacher’s mindset.
     
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  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Strange, the only thing he really proved was he wasn't ready to fight at the championship level. Judging by this comment he had a high opinion of himself as a heavyweight fighter with an 0-1 by KO loss.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He beat Folley and Baker in the ams.
     
  9. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People forget how green a lot of OIympic pro debuters were. They still needed to work on their skills, defense, pacing, conditioning, generalship.

    I don’t thinks Spinks or Briggs would have beaten Patterson. Keep in mind Frazier was life and death with Bonavena early on. Going from an amateur 3-round fighter to a 15-round fighter is not easy. Holyfield was life and death with Qawi the first time, but with more experience blew through him. Lomachenko made the same mistake.