Peter showed he cant take a big punch. We all saw him staggered against Wlad and thought that was from being tired then we saw him go down 3 times within 3 minutes to McCline. He showed heart by getting up and going on, but anyone who would of had more stamina (not trying to put McCline down but hes a BIG guy) would of been able to put Sam away. Sam showed us nothing special, showing that his power is overrated and that his boxing skills are nothing special. Did Peter win this fight? Sure, 113-112 was reasonably fair but when the scorecards come out 115-111 that is just rediculous and it shows that DK had a lot of money on Sam. Sam proved he has heart like I said, but nothing more. Overrated and green. Now, should we take Wlads win against him away. You can argue to do that, but I know 90% of this board has Sam Peter to kill Wlad so I think Wlads win is still very good over Sam. Sam needs a defining win but I just dont see that unless he catches somehow with a great shot.
I too think Peter won the fight, however the ref was helping Peter. Peter got away with low blows, rabbit punches, and hitting on the break. IMO, Peter also got too much of a rest after he got up from a knock down. The ref gave Peter a few extra second to recover after he got up from a knock down.
You can't have it both ways. You can't say Peter has a C chin, is green, and has no skills and then say Wlad's win over him was a good win. If you're saying Peter is trash then Wlad's win over him is dubious, and he shouldn't get much credit for it
But see you can do it like that, because A LOT of people had Sam Peter to destroy Wlad. Wlads win may not be as big as it was, but it was still a big win.
C+ is going overboard here. More evidence is needed. Clearly, Peter's chin is not the A-level we thought he had after the Wlad fight, but it's probably not as bad as the 3rd round of the McCline fight would indicate either. Let's not forget, he GOT UP, and went on to win the fight. Guys with shitty chins either never get up in the first place, or end up getting stopped. Peter didn't. Until he faces some more top heavyweights, the jury should remain out on Peter's chin. The McCline fight raised questions, but those questions have yet to be answered.
No, it doesn't work that way. If you think Peter is trash, than beating can't be a big win in your opinion. Forget what everyone else says. Other people's opinion doesn't matter in this situation. You came out and said Peter is trash. If you feel that way, then logically, you can't give Wlad much credit for beating him. I personally think Peter is a good fighter, and believe that Wlad's win over him is his best win to date.
Title of thread should be changed from C+ to B+. or at least lets move the chin from China to Korea or India, but he doesn't deserve to be titled China chin for yesterday. Look at his other history.
i honestly think that if the ref really wanted to help peter. . he would have pentalized McCline for holding. Alot of the punches that peter was getting warned about was landing more to the side of the head, and i only saw 2 low blows the whole fight which happened in the clinch
Peter`s chin is fairly ordinary but his recovery powers an ring intelligience are horrid. He doesnt have the style to get on his bike when hurt, and he doesnt have the ring smarts to clinch and cover up when hurt. He gamely tried to throw back when hurt but resembled a pub drunk when trying to do so. His chin has never really been checked other than his fight with Vlad and then that was in the final rounds and i assumed he must have been gassed. Last night he was shook by a relatively light puncher. That is not a good look at all as the jury is solidly out.Iv said and il say it again.. ANY GOOD BOX PUNCHER STANDS PETER ON HIS HEAD.I said this years ago my opinion hasnt changed and neither has Sam Peters game.
Peter gets KD'd multiple times and you're still looking for excuses to excuse his chin. Yet you called Taylor, who was never down at the time, weakchinned. Regardless of Peter's chin (which doesn't seem all that great right now), he doesn't have the right stuff to beat even today's top five. There's more chance that you'll be the next pope than Sam will unify.
I think the main lesson of Peter-McCline is that Wlad doesn't punch as hard as we thought and that McCline has more power than anyone thought.
Agree, which is why I've never "trashed" Peter. But then applying your logic, you'll agree with the following. Peter was KD 3X and just narrowly got by a fighter that Wlad easily beat. If you trash Wlad (which many do) or McCline (which many do), then what is Peter? A bum? Like you said, it doesn't work that way - except for the idiots or bigots :yep
So then Alis win over Foreman was nothing. And Douglas win over Tyson was nothing. Same with Holyfield. Roy JJ over Ruiz means nothing as well.