Peter Jackson - Best HW in the world from 88-92?

I think it was more that the Heavyweight title was the crown of sports and physical culture- it was a symbolic thing. I remember watching a johnson docu where the narrator states "the white man's burden became the white man's master"....

 

I'm not so sure. The heavyweight championship was obviously the biggest deal, but there was a lot of stock put in those other titles and the fighters who had them were held in high esteem (Dempsey, McAuliffe, Dixon, Ryan, Gans, etc). I think that in between George Dixon's thrashing of Skelly in the famous "Carnival of Champions" in 1892(which didn't cause riots but definitely some unease among white spectators) and Jack Johnson's ascencion there had been enough years of black vs white battles that the public was reasonably conditioned to it. There had been black champs before Johnson(and they had to beat LOTS of white fighters to get there) and one had to figure that it would only be a matter of time before a black man held the HW title. With the way society was back then you have to figure that it would have been a piece of cake to keep a black man away from ANY title.

I don't think there would have been as much of a stink kicked up if it were Joe Jeannette or Sam Langford who won the title. Some grumblings from the more virulent racist hubs in the country, but nothing like what happened with Jack Johnson. People hated the guy and in my opinion he set race relations back, in boxing and society in general. If Jeannette or Langford had been champ and not Johnson I am pretty confident that we wouldn't have had to wait until 1937 before a black man fought for the title again.

Archie Moore and Jack Blackburn described Johnson's legacy pretty well in regards to what we're talking about:

"If you really ain't gonna be another Jack Johnson, you got some hope. White man hasn't forgotten that fool n****r with his white women, acting like he owned the world. "--Jack Blackburn

“The man was a disaster to anyone who came near him. American blacks are still paying for him."--Archie Moore

 

Pretty Much. He was a 60s era black man with a 60s era mentality living in 10s-20s era America. It's like taking 20s era Louis Armstrong and replacing him with Miles Davis. It may very well have ruined the progress of the jazz market and altered the course of popular music in general. Who knows? :smoke

 

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The link below will explain why Jackson did not wish to fight in New Orleans


http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...&resnum=4&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false


This link illustrates Jackson's reluctance to fight in the Deep South,
but his willingness to fight in the NSC in London against Corbett ,the fight was proposed in May 1894 for a huge purse of $15,000 Jackson accepted, Corbett refused.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...&resnum=4&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false
Jackson agreed to fight Corbett anywhere but the deep South.
Jackson proposed California, Corbett's home state, he refused,he then proposed NewYork and ,Nevada, Corbett again refused.Corbett did not come out of the woodwork and challenge Jackson to face him until Jackson was safely back in Australia this is an irrefutable fact. If Corbett's reasons for fighting in New Orleans or Jacksonville were because he was famous there, how come he never fought in them again?
If you are going to tell lies ,at least try and make them credible.
You are full of ****.

 

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No ,you posted a thread about some one called Bruns

 

After Dixon beat Skelly in New Orleans ,there were inter- racial riots.
" A tremendous wave of fear and indignation swept the South.
Blacks were roughed up all over.
The authorities decreed there would be no more inter- racial bouts permitted, hereafter"

The above is a direct quote which demonstrates the danger for a black fighter in the South at that time. So bad was the emotional climate ,black/white contests were banned .
This make you look the complete **** you are.

Corbett was a gentle man? :think He spat in Fitzsimmons face, publicly insulted him on several occasions,was detested by both Fitz and Choynski.
Accused Jackson of cowardice, [when Jackson was safely in Australia].

Kept up a running barrage of obscene racial epiphets at Johnson when Jack was thrashing Jeffries.

Was taken into custody for hitting his then wife, and regularly frequented prostitutes.

By your standards he might be a gentle- man , I believe he was an arsehole , same as you.

"After 1892 Jackson was unable to obtain fights. Past his prime, he was debilitated by fast living and probably even then tubercular".

If you are looking for a response on the Bruns thread ,can you not confine yourself to that instead of bringing your agenda laden **** onto another posters thread?
Try and show some courtesy, not to me ,[your opinion is worthless and I respect you less than a piece of dog ****,]but to others.

 

Blacks were beaten up after this fight , and interracial bouts were banned in New Orleans as a result of it.

 

Ah, I stand corrected then. Appreciate the heads-up.

 

that is unquestionable.

jackson was the best in the late 1880's and a case can be made up to the middle 1890's since corbett wouldn't fight him.