Peter Jackson's Retirement

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The essential wind up of Jackson's career seems pretty mysterious to me (I am not counting his last two bouts years later). He beats his nemesis Slavin, is promised a fight by Corbett win or lose against Sullivan, fights Keliher as a placekeeper sort of bout, gets shafted twice by Corbett both before and after his safe defense against Mitchell, and just seems to quit. I've been reading articles and interviews from 1893/94 and he seems to be still looking to fight, ready to drop his role in a touring production of Uncle Tom's Cabin... but nothing. Corbett was clearly ducking him but Fitzsimmons wanted a piece of him. Was he simply disillusioned? Had the drink taken over his life? He took a beating against Slavin. Did effects from that bout carry over? I read he had to convalesce for 6 weeks afterward. Or was it merely a long career come to an end?
     
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    Drink seems to have been a key factor in his downfall.

    Like with Sullivan, his drinking is enough of an issue, to come to the attention of the press.

    He wasn't smashing up bars, but it was common knowledge that he had a problem.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    The important thing to remember is that Jackson's crowing victory came against the same Slavin that turned up drunk and got KOed by the 150Ibs and past it Charlie Mitchell.
     
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  4. Seamus

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    Didn't they fight 117 times?

    Anyways, I find it difficult to believe that anyone named Paddy would drink.
     
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  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Let me help you out on the magnificient specimen known as Peter Jackson....

    "Eight rounds were fought. At the fifth it was evident that the gentlemen of colour was getting more attention from the Barrier gentleman than was looked for; in fact, had the encounter been one of bare knuckles, Mr. Jackson might have left the ring only with assistance."
     
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    Make no mistake, Peter Jackson was feared!

    He is one of those fighters who nobody wanted any part of, even when he was obviously well past his best, and not taking care of himself!
     
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    Which fight is that?

    "At the close of the fight Slavin, as he lay helpless and disfigured, appeared almost dead. He presented a woeful appearance, and showed plainly the effects of terrible punishment. His eyes were nearly closed, his face badly swollen and discolored, and his body covered with blood."

    And, wow, the hero John L. had a particularly awful comment upon those results.
     
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    I assume that the "Barrier Gentleman" would be Goddard!
     
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  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    You are correct.
     
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  10. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    From what you said alone, seems drinking and possibly a fear of Fitz (I don't blame him) led to his retirement

    I'd also say that he was probably """disheartened""" by James J Jeffries
     
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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Of course. Goddard was a bad @ss. And yet another heavy drinker.
     
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    It was reported that whilst living in London he was on the booze everyday and that he had hand tremors from the drink.
     
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    Slavin broke one of his ribs which punctured a lung, there is a deal of speculation that this led to the start of his TB.Of course frustrated that he was denied a title chance, the disillusioned Jackson began to drink heavily and did not take care of himself,which didn't help.
     
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  14. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Choynski said Jackson had trouble with bodyshots, I wonder if it was because of injuries from the Slavin fight.
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Good point, its very possible.
     
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