Peter must be given credit...

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  1. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golota dont deserve sh*t. He lost to "Huggy Bear" Ruiz and was blown out in one by Brewster in his last two meaningful fight. I would bash Peter to no end if he takes a fight with Golota.
     
  2. Suge Green

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    Never mind Golota, but losses to Ruiz don't count. They don't even need an asterisk...the name Ruiz says it all.
     
  3. Punisher33

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    At least we know Golota will make it to the ring come fight night, I dont think he's deserving, but he is more deserving them Vitali, whose last fight was in Nov. of 04, and has backed out of 5 fights since, and broke the WBC record for most postponements without actually fighting.
     
  4. Punisher33

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    I want to see Vitali fight Peter, but I still have my doubts, I just see Peter not getting in the ring again until 09, because of Vitali and his injuries, Vitali and Wlad both holding titles at the same time, would quite possibly be my worst nighmare.:verysad
     
  5. 1lehudson

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    I have to agree there.
     
  6. cuchulain

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    If Sam Peter beats any version of Vitali, he should get full credit. The fight should be set for July or Aug with a late Sept absolute deadline. If Vitali hasn't fought by then, he should retire, for good.
     
  7. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    You are exaggerating. There has only been 3 times that were actually signed bouts. Twice against Rahman, and once against McCline. Everytime someone talks about it, they add another time against Rahman. The first time that an agreement had been met. Vitali had them push the proposed date back further, because he had a leg injury. Vitali ended up having to undergo back surgery to fix the pinched nerve that was leading him to believe that he had injured his thigh.... but they never had an actual agreement met at that time, and no venue, or date was agreed upon. Then, the second time that Vitali pulled out was when he blew out his knee. He retired after this. Then, last year in his comeback attempt against McCline.

    That is 3 times, not 5. Remember, Vitali had just fought in December of 2004. He didn't have 4 different fights against Rahman set up in less than one year. Vitali even underwent back surgery during this period of time. The press just kept jumping the gun and putting dates out there for a fight, that wasn't yet finalized.

    Also, let's remember that Vitali was ready to fight Rahman that Sept, and the fight was held up by Don King putting together Rahman vs Barrett. So, Vitali tried to get a tune-up in against Maskaev, since the Rahman fight wouldn't happen until later that year. It was denied... and Vitali had to once again stop training, and sit on the shelf until the Rahman fight was scheduled again.
     
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    Anyone notice how I, as a known Klitschko fan start this thread giving Sam Peter props and respect... only to have the thread turned into **** by the Klitschko haters once again turning this into a Klitschko bashing contest? Then, they wonder why we are always defending the Klitschkos. They turn it all around and act like we are "rabid" fans or "fanatics" because they always put Klitschko fans on the defensive. I can't even start a thread giving Sam Peter respect without them coming in and turning it into a thread downgrading Vitali. I guess this is a prime example of who is really to blame for the flame wars on this message board.
     
  9. Punisher33

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    Soliman said that it was 4 times that Vitali cancelled out on Rahman, in the 44 years of the WBC belts exsistence, Vitali had the most cacellations without a fight, the dates are as followed April 30, June 18, July 23, and the final date Nov 12., you can find all this information by going to the HBO website and pluging in "How many times did Vitali cancel his fight with Rahman".

    I reccomend you check it out Widdow, it also talks about King trying to sue Vitali as well.
     
  10. Suge Green

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    I'll do you a favor and skip your last post...and pick up right here.

    It's the untruths that cause KLIT-ites to be on the defensive, they are always slipped in...and they are always called.

    In the post I chose not to quote, you act as though dates are just made up and times are made up.

    In the other thread you got your dates.
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I don't care what "dates" you provide. You said that he cancelled on 4 signed fights with Rahman. That is a lie. There only two signed fights with Rahman. That is a fact.
     
  12. Suge Green

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    You know what, if that's the case I would gladly adjust my statement.

    It doesn't change my overall position if you are correct. He canceled 5 times. He couldn't get through training camp. He was injured, etc. etc...

    All you can really do, for quite a bit of work is get me to adjust the statement from "signed," to "agreed to fight on such and such a date..."

    I wouldn't put so much emphasis where you are putting it, but as I said I would gladly and quickly adjust my statement and refer to it in the future as correctly as possible.

    So get to work and prove that negative...that they did not sign...
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Already said that Vitali had the fight pushed back and postponed more than the times that it was signed. However, there were only two fights that were actually signed between the two.
     
  14. Suge Green

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    We are still right here.
     
  15. Punisher33

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    Widdow your wrong, please go to HBO's website, it gives Jose Soliman giving a direct qoute that Vitali cancelled out on Rahman 4 times, even going on to say " This has never happend in the 44 year exsistence of the WBC.

    All you have to do is plug in "How many times did Rahman cancel his fight with Rahman", scroll down to the title that says HBO boxing event, and you will get a long article on Vitali's cancellations, you will find the proof there.