Peter v Vitali: "Who Do You Like?" Video, Press Conference, Staredown

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I saw Vitlai's clips in the gym when he was training for Mcline, and to be dead honest, his hand speed and pop on the mitts was very impressive. Sure, it was only a few seconds or so, but the speed and power were certainly there.

    I think Ring rust, and long term stamina are bigger challenges for Vitlai than speed, or power. Peter is not the type to up his punch output in the later rounds though, so it’s mostly ring rust Vitlai has to work about.
     
  2. geppy

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    Vitali is going to finish what Mccline started. I don't think Mccline has half the boxing skill as Klitschko, hits as hard, or has as good of a chin.

    I expect Vitali to beat down Peter and knock him out.
     
  3. Stoic

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    So what? Hearing isn't that important in a fight.
     
  4. magnificentdave

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    I don't really know the medical science behind it, but people use their ear canals/eardrums to establish their balance(their ability to stand on two feet without swaying, etc)
     
  5. JonOli

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    I hope VIt can be explosive.... Wlad, and Valuev are not too great to watch...
     
  6. FourtyOunce

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    You just proved that your a ****ing dumb ass:hi:
     
  7. Farmboxer

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    If Vitali is at 50% he will knock Peter out.

    Ask Tony Tubbs about Vitali's right hand. He worked with Vitali a lot in that past.
     
  8. Suge Green

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    I see your point also...however in this Post Lewis era, we are still searching for a supreme HW to establish himself...VITKLIT has basically already proven it's not him.

    Peter is trying to prove himself that HW, which he has yet to do. If Peter establishes himself as such, that answers your question about how a victory over him would be meaningful.

    ...I'm glad you could see VITKLIT wasn't a real champ.:good
     
  9. Suge Green

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    If you had 50% of a brain, you'd stop posting...:oops:
     
  10. McGrain

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    Anything you breakdown form film tells you Vitali will win. But let's be honest, a four year lay off - and then he returns to do 12 rounds at the highest level.

    We've agreed that an early stoppage is possible but not particularly likely. Can he really do 12 rounds at this level, straight of the bat? I see a De La Hoya like fade.

    Will he have done enough?
     
  11. coog

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    I still have to pick vitali in the later rounds if he has the stamina to make it. I think that he will.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    McGrain,

    Peter is not the type to increase his punch out put in the later rounds. History shows us this. If Peter could not stop Toney, who hung around the ropes, or McCline who has average skills and even less of a chin than Toney, what chance does Peter really have for a conventional stoppage of Vitali?

    I do think Peter can hit very hard, but I understand how Peter fights. Peter uses the jab in the middle of the ring, to set up his right hand and throws wild hooks when he has his man on the ropes, or rabbit punches. Peter’s hook to me is more dangerous than his right. Vitlai does not get hit by hooks much.

    Vitlai's smarts, footwork, spacing, and defense have always been under rated. I think the fans are ignoring this, and focusing on two big men who hit hard. Yes, they both hit hard, but skills on offense, defense, and natural advantages such as height and reach are Vitlai's advantages. And he will use them.

    I also believe Vitlai's might be too tall and fights too tall for Peter to land his foul punches behind the head.

    Vitlai would not take the fight unless he thinks he will win. I beleive he will win, and I also beleive Vitali is fighting for more than just a belt and some money. Never bet against a fighter who fights for a cause greater than money or a belt. Vitali's main motivation is to become co-champs with Wlad.

    If he beats Peter, I think Vitali might have a surprise offer for his next fight, but I'm not spilling any beans! One fight at a time.
     
  13. McGrain

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    Mendoza -

    I agree with most of what you say, but I'm not talking about the way the fighters will interact or the way Peter fights, his punch output. What I am interested in is the way Hopkins gassed in the last rounds of his fight with Calzaghe, or the way that Oscar did in his fight with Mayweather. Hopkins had some say over the tempo his fight was fought at, and so did Oscar, but they still began to struggle because they are not young men.

    Now, Vitali's comeback is almost unparallelled. No warm up, he's straight in at title level. He can feel like $1m bucks and look like $1m bucks for seven rounds and then - begin to gas. This can happen almost regardless of the way Peter fights, Vitali would just have to be tight and or breathing incorrectly or have a conditioning issue...for me, this is it, this is the reason I won't be gambling on Vitali he should win on paper...but there are no fights on paper.

    It will be fascinating to see.
     
  14. BoxingGuru

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    Do you seriously think you know what you're talking about? Have you known anyone that used steroids? If you did you're feel like an idiot right now.

    You don't use steroids to heal injuries in pro-boxing. You use them to build lean muscle. GO ASK ANYONE that takes them.

    Toney used them because they help burn fat and built lean muscle, and the fat **** was stupid enough to get caught TWICE.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Beleive it or not, gassing in boxing has something to do with not breathing properly, not relaxing, or punching your self out. Conditioning is but one part of the equation. Vitlai breaths hard to suck air in un-purpose. He is pretty cool in the ring under stress, and has never punched himself out.

    Vitlai knows how to pace himself, and like I said Peter is not fast enough or active enough to press Vitlai's stamina...I think.

    Peter hides his stamina in the later rounds by doing nothing for the 1st minutes after a 60 second break, then tries to steal the round at mid way point. This is the straight dope on Peter. Watch his fights. Vitlai will know this. Peter is not known for later round KO's for a reason. He lacks the stamina.

    So even if Vitlai becomes very tired, Peter might not have enough left to make him pay for it in the later rounds.

    I do think you have a point on older fighters hitting the wall in distance fights. It is a concern, but Vitlai seems to be in his ideal fighting weight.

    Vitlai will throw 70+ punchers round in this fight. 50 or so is more like it. 40 is enough to win it from rounds 6 to finish if it goes the distance. Vitlai says it will not last the distance.

    Ocsar lacked the fire to risk what he needed to do to win and seemed gun shy about taking punches.Vitlai was never one to coast in the final rounds, or any round for that matter.