Peter's sparring partners for his fight with brittly

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  1. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had a busted eardrum around a month ago got kicked in the side of head during sparring and did not go down. Peter was almost koed in that fight he was lucky to get the w as many thought MCcline should have got the w.
     
  2. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can't help but notice things got pretty quiet after that.
     
  3. Superfuzz

    Superfuzz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's also a medical fact, once you get semi-concussions and get hurt, the frequency of them get more and more. If Peter had a hurt eardrum before the fight, he should have postponed and never fought. Nothing wrong with that to me, if its serious. He got hurt pretty good in that McCline fight, and it may have hurt him down the road.
     
  4. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah its' funny how thats happens when somone gets there card pulled really hard and know they just got owned.
     
  5. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Unlikely.

    Power is the last thing to go and Maskaev always had power. He hit Sam with his sunday punch and didn't move him. That big chin is still there. Vitlay will find out if he makes it past training camp.

    BTW, I'm not sold on the eardrum thing either. All I know is any heavyweight in history would have gotten floored by that right hand McCline landed. Most would have been eating from a straw for weeks after. The first knockdown was a shove and then a punch. Nobody can deny that. But the second uppercut and that right hand were monsterous punches. I don't even see McCall taking those shots easily.
     
  6. Superfuzz

    Superfuzz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But, really, the guy whose fighter loses, will really be the one that got owned. I am not the best at writing and putting my thoughts together the best way. I'm not as young as you guys. But, I have had the pleasure many times before of my fighters beating the snot out of fighters of people who have said I don't know much about boxing. That to me is the greatest owning.
     
  7. Superfuzz

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    No doubt, Peter is a tough fighter. Toney would have taken him out easily if he wasn't. I still think though that Peter and his fans are underestimating too much Vitali and his nonactivity. They are banking on that too much. If Peter goes into the fight thinking he can bomb out Vitali, he will have rude awakening, you can bank on that.
     
  8. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Vitlay has never beaten a boxer as good and naturally gifted as Sam Peter. That's the problem here.

    Corrie Sanders had a big punch and some speed but horrible stamina and nowhere near Sam's chin.

    Kirk Johnson was a good boxer when he tried, but he entered the ring as cannon fodder a career high 260lbs against Vitlay. He obviously didn't come to win.

    Danny Williams at best is a journeyman. Not a great chin, decent power, horrible stamina and really bad balance. It is no wonder that Vitlay was bouncing him off the canvas when they fought. That is exactly what should have happened.

    The thing is Sam will take Vitlay's right hand with ease. Waldo has a much stiffer and much more powerful right hand which can be seen in his two fights with Byrd, whereas Vitlay was never close to hurting Byrd with his right hand. Ditto for the Lewis-Vitlay fight where Lewis walked through numerous hard right hands. Sam will have no problem taking that punch.

    Vitlay is not like his brother. He falls back alot and loses power doing so. Waldo will fall forward, which makes him more vunerable but it also makes him much more dangerous.

    Add in the lengthy layoff here and I believe Sam should be a heavy favorite. Even if the layoff shows no wear on Vitlay, he still should be beaten by a younger opponent with big heart, a big punch and growing skills.
     
  9. Heavyrighthand

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    I think Vitali is confident enough in his own chin and power to get in an exchange with Peter.

    And if so, let see just who can take it, and who can't.
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    are you serious? Peter has no skills at all. He is a clubbing plodder with no plan B in a fight.

    Vitali has fought and beat much better competition than Peter. Peter's best win is Maskaev or a fat James Toney. Peter has stopped one top 25 Heavyweight in Maskaev all his other KO's are against C and D level fighters.
     
  11. Alcaldemb

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    I would like to point out, once again, that McCline is sparring with Povetkin so he cannot actually be sparring with Peter.
     
  12. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    You show your ignorance time and time again.

    What have Vitlay's best wins (Corrie Sanders, Danny Williams, Kirk Johnson) done any better than Sam Peter? Nothing. Absolutely dick. The only thing that could be argued was Corrie Sanders knocking out a green Waldo Klitschko. Apart from that they have all performed worse than Sam Peter.

    Vitlay's best performance was against an aging, unmotivated, disinterested Lennox Lewis. Lewis walked through Vitlay's best punches, (the same out of shape Lewis who fought Hasim Rahman the first time) while suffering no ill effects. If Vitlay was this monster he should have knocked Lewis out that night. He didn't. So we can put that myth to rest.
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Peter's best win is Maskaev who Kirk Johnson knocked out in 4 rounds. Sanders beat Wlad who beat Peter. Need I keep going? Peter has no skills at all he has shown he can't take hooks or uppercuts in the McCline fight who was bouncing Peter off the canvas like a basketball.

    Peter has KOed one top 25 Heavyweight who happens to have a Glass Jaw. How is that performing well? :lol:
     
  14. FourtyOunce

    FourtyOunce Stick Ninja Full Member

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    Hear ya go smarty pants

    Index to this pageHearing and Equilibrium

    Hearing


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    The sense of hearing is the ability to detect the mechanical vibrations we call sound.
    Sound waves
    • pass down the auditory canal of the outer ear
    • strike the eardrum (tympanic membrane) causing it to vibrate
    • these vibrations are transmitted across the middle ear by three tiny, linked bones, the ossicles:
      • hammer (malleus)
      • anvil (incus)
      • stirrup (stapes)
    • The ossicles also magnify the amplitude of the vibrations.
    The middle ear is filled with air and is connected to the outside air by the eustachian tube, which opens into the nasopharynx. Opening of the tube — during swallowing or yawning — equalizes the air pressure on either side of the eardrum.
    Allergies or a head cold may inflame the walls of the eustachian tubes making them less easily opened. Rapid changes in pressure at such times — such as descending in an aircraft or during a SCUBA dive, may be quite painful because of the unequal pressure against the eardrums.
    The Inner Ear

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    Vibrations of the innermost ossicle, the stirrup, are transmitted through a flexible membrane, the oval window to the cochlea of the inner ear. The cochlea is a tube, about 3.5 cm long, that is coiled like a snail shell and filled with a special fluid called endolymph. The most dramatic difference in the composition of endolymph from other lymph in the body is its high concentration of potassium (K+) ions.
    Running through the cochlea for its entire length is a plate of bone and an inner tube that is also filled with endolymph. These structures divide the outer tube of the cochlea into two separate chambers.
    Because liquids are practically incompressible, it is necessary to have some way of relieving the pressures created when the oval window is pushed in and out. The flexible round window does this by moving in the opposite direction.
    The organ of Corti

    The organ of Corti lies within the middle chamber of the cochlea. It contains thousands of hair cells, which are the actual vibration receptors. The apical surface of the hair cells contains an array of stereocilia, which give the hair cells their name. Stereocilia are not built from the "9+2" arrangement of microtubules that are found in true cilia.
    The hair cells are located between the basilar and tectorial membranes. Vibrations of the endolymph cause vibrations of the basilar membrane. This moves stereocilia at the tips of the hair cells against the tectorial membrane and open potassium channels in them. The influx of K+ from the endolymph depolarizes the cell.
    You should note that hair cells differ from most "excitable cells" (neurons and muscle fibers) in their use of potassium ions, not sodium ions, to depolarize the cell. Link to a discussion of excitable cells. Depolarization of the hair cell causes the release of a neurotransmitter (probably glutamate) at its basal surface and the initiation of nerve impulses in a sensory neuron that synapses with it. These impulses travel back along the auditory nerve (the 8th cranial nerve) to the brain.
    Many people, especially when young, can hear sounds with frequencies (pitches) from as low as 16 to as high as 20,000 hertz (cycles per second). Detection of a given frequency is a function of the location of the hair cells along the organ of Corti with the highest frequencies detected near the base of the cochlea, and the remainder of the sound spectrum detected in a progressive fashion with the lowest frequencies detected by hair cells near the tip.


    Equilibrium

    The inner ear also detects:
    • the position of the body with respect to gravity
    • the motion of the body.
    Just above the cochlea are two interconnecting chambers filled with endolymph, the sacculus and utriculus. On their inner surface are patches of hair cells to which are attached thousands of tiny spheres of calcium carbonate (CaCO3). Gravity pulls these downward. As the head is oriented in different directions, these ear stones or otoliths shift their position. The action potentials initiated in the hair cells are sent back to the brain.
    Motion of the body is detected in the three semicircular canals at the top of each inner ear, each one oriented in a different plane. There is a small chamber at one end of each canal containing hair cells. Whenever the head is moved, the fluid within the canals lags in its motion so that there is relative motion between the walls and the endolymph. This stimulates the hair cells to send impulses back to the brain.
    When the hair cells send messages that are incongruent with what the eyes are seeing and our body is feeling, as may occur in a boat or aircraft during rough weather, motion sickness can result.
    Some people also suffer severe dizziness because otoliths have become dislodged from their utriculus (e.g. following a blow to the head) and settled in a semicircular canal.
    Echolocation

    Bats can hear frequencies as high as 150,000 hertz. Sound at these ultrasonic (to us) frequencies travels in fairly straight lines. Bats flying in complete darkness are able to locate obstacles and even insect prey by emitting pulses of this ultrasonic sound and then adjusting the course of flight to the echo that returns to their ears. Such a system of echolocation works on the same principle as sonar for submarine detection.
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    A blindfolded bat can fly between the wires touching them only rarely. A bat whose ears are plugged collides repeatedly with the wires.
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    Hunter and hunted. In the top photo, a moth (bright streak) takes successful evasive action upon detecting the approach of a bat (broad streak across the photo). (The diffuse image is a tree in the background.) In the bottom photo, the two streaks intersect, indicating that this time the moth was unable to escape capture by the bat. (Photos by Frederic A. Webster, courtesy of the late Prof. Kenneth D. Roeder.)
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  15. FourtyOunce

    FourtyOunce Stick Ninja Full Member

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    NO i just got back to the computer,, read my reply post above