PeteThePrince's Top 50 P4P Greatest Fighters Ever - ROUGH DRAFT!!

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by PetethePrince, Feb 16, 2010.


  1. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like Basillio he is one of my favorite old timers but CHavez should be waaaaaaaay above him, no excuse for putting Chavez so low pete. And im not being biased, causeIm not a Whittaker fan and i think he is also to low on your list.
     
  2. horst

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    I applaud anyone who takes the time to do something like this, but with all due respect I think this is a pretty poor list. The choices I've highlighted
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    are unjustifiable (ie too high!) and urgently require a re-think IMO. :good

    PS: Barney Ross absolutely MUST be much higher than that mate, surely to God!
     
  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Robinson at no1 is 100% correct but Marciano & Dempsey are too high for starters.... Ali, Leonard, Chavez & a few others are too low also.

    I only rank fighters that Ive seen enough of because there is only so much you can tell from old newspaper articles + Ive only ever did a top 10, thats hard enough & no poster has ever came up with even the exact top 10 but here`s mine anyway......

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Willie Pep
    4. Henry Armstrong
    5. Roberto Duran
    6. Sugar Ray Leonard
    7. Joe Louis
    8/9. Pernell Whitaker/Julio cesar Chavez
    10. Thomas Hearns
     
  4. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually of the ones u highlighted i think only the heavyweights were to high Dempsey (for sure) ridiculously high imo,Marciano too high but i understand the pFP theory on Marciano so maybe he wasnt to high but still a little bit. Also im a huge Tyson fan but he was too high by about 20 notches. Maybe Pryor was rated a little high. Delahoya was too low he should switch spots with Mike Tyson.

    But i agree with Pete on his opinions on many modern fighters, some guys here disagree with his high placings of them but not here most of them are pretty accurate. Especially like how he placed Evander and Michael Spinks high as many tend to underrate those 2.

    Put still cant get over Chavez being so low:-(
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    not a bad list Bill:think
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    well noone said it would be easy :smoke

    all those things you wrote, you have to take them into account.

    Also, you have to make an effort to put personal style preferences, if you have any, aside.
     
  7. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    It's not fond around here but for me Ali over Marciano and Dempsey all day.
     
  8. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :lol: At least that was funny rather than your constant bore.

    Tyson feasted upon bigger, taller men. I'm looking at his absolute pinnacle, too.
     
  9. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    None of those are unjustifiably too high when considering the criteria. Did you accidentally read the Pac name instead of bold? You're one of his biggest fans. So you don't think Pac for his multiple division wins, and ability should be ranked that high on a P4P scale?
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    If it weren't a P4P list it would be that case. If it were just a greatness list Dempsey doesn't make the top 50, probably.
     
  11. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    See the 'when i was green' thread for my opinion on this.
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Exactly. Notice it's P4P.

    This isn't the general... but you guys are telling me that older fighters were superior regarding their technique and ability? Not talking resumes here really.
     
  13. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Sorry to be awkward PetethePrince, i just need to ask though. You see it is possible to have a p4p list that means greatness, meaning the greatest p4p rather than the greatest in different divisions. So does your list mean p4p in the sense of simply who was better, disregarding legacies etc?
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :oops:
     
  15. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Edited the list. Can't see myself making too many more changes from here on out.