I had him high before he fought Gamboa... **** i told everyone hes gonna give Gamboa a tough fight, everyone "Man you crazy hes gonna get blown out" Well then Gamboa has the toughest fights so far goes down and goes the distance. Then everyone says watch Lopez gonna blow him out...Im the only one who called it on ESB i said watch Salido is gonna upset him no fluke, he just has the style and the tools to take Lopez into deep waters... Well once again i was right:bart(Check rummys challenge im the only one who picked him)... Also made threads about it and for some reason the mods erased it:verysad. He beat Guerrero convincingly and in 10 years has only lost to elites like Marquez and Gamboa... Oh and avenged a loss to former Champ Cruz... I see Salido is still underrated even though he keeps proven people wrong. Quit looking at his record... He might not be the smoothest fighter,but hes effective,Very strong,Hard punching, and a tough chin... Use to be much quicker but even though hes slowed down hes still a helluva fighter and a top 20pfp guy. Guarrantee you he kos Lopez in a rematch:yep:bbb
Sorry about your loss. Its to early to say if Mares will be next.. He certainly has enough tough opposition..Still has a fight with AGbeko and possibly Nonito, or even Rigondeaux,Nishioka when he moves up. If he could pull of an upset over Nonito he wont have to wait for Marquez to retire!(unless he upsets Pac) to pass him up... But with all that tough comp its gonna be tough to come out without a loss... Segura,Rios,Guerrero,Canelo are all guys with the potential to grab that number one spo,t even Ortiz if he can sharpen up his defense and continue on fighting possessed, or pull of an upset over one of the big 2 superstars at his weight ... Only thing with Segura is he needs another marquee name to boost him higher,unless he can move up and wins some more titles.. He certainly has the power, id like to see him and Pong duke it out.. Rios or Guerrero could or whoever cleans out LW(not sure JM is coming back down to LW:think) can move up to JW and beat the guy on top their (Bradley or Kahn). Too many possibilities there, or Canelo in the next couple years if he proves to be the main man at JM and MW, there are alot of possible big fights for him once he steps up. Or how bout Mikey Garcia pulling out an upset over the mighty Gamboa? Or might just have to wait for JW super prospects Frankie Gomez,Jose Benavides they look like cant miss elites. Or Power Punching Super Middles Shawn Estrada and Marco Periban. Only seen Periban once but he looked awesome in brutally knocking out another undefeated Mayweather trainied Super Middle prospect.... Shawn Estrada vowed to get revenge on Degale and told me he has no doubt that he kos him in the pros, said Degale tasted his power in the olympics and ran and relied on the Olympic style of fighting to take a decision. Looks like a possiblity of Estrada being the pro after his loss to mediocre Groves.. Estrada has been unstoppable knocking out almost all his opponents in 1 round!!
IMO you VERY underrate Edgar Sosa. This is my list with no gringos (I included David Díaz because he does come up with the Mexican flag/shorts and not the US American). 1 Juan Manuel Marquez 2 Giovani Segura 3 Hugo Fidel Cazares 4 Abner Mares 5 Orlando Salido 6 Tomas Rojas 7 Fernando Montiel 8 Rafael Marquez 9 Humberto Soto 10 Jhonny Gonzalez 11 Miguel Vazquez 12 Alfredo Angulo 13 Antonio Margarito 14 Jorge Arce 15 Edgar Sosa 16 Ulises Solis 17 Raul Garcia 18 Saul Alvarez 19 Urbano Antillon 20 Julio Cesar Miranda 21 Hernan Marquez 22 Adrian Hernandez 23 Ramon Garcia Hirales 24 Cristian Mijares 25 Cristóbal Cruz Rivera 26 Jorge Solis 27 Antonio DeMarco 28 Jorge Lacierva 29 Wilbert Uicab 30 Victor Terrazas 31 Daniel Ponce de Leon 32 David Lopez 33 Reyes Sanchez 34 Juan Alberto Rosas 35 Gilberto Keb Baas 36 Omar Nino Romero 37 Hugo Ruiz 38 Francisco Arce 39 Manuel Vargas 40 Sammy Gutierrez 41 Marco Antonio Rubio 42 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr 43 David Diaz 44 Erik Morales 45 Humberto Mauro Gutierrez 46 Juan Jose Montes 47 Alfonso Gomez 48 Librado Andrade 49 Ganigan Lopez 50 Enrique Ornelas 51 Jesus Silvestre 52 Marco Antonio Barrera 53 Dante Jardon 54 Carlos Molina 55 Juan Carlos Burgos 56 Rigoberto Álvarez 56 Ivan Hernandez
How you gonna make up some crazy rule like that cause he sports the Mexican flag So does ORtiz and Rios... ODLH use to and so did Vargas? The rest arent any more pocho then Diaz is.atsch Ps i think your right about Sosa... Wasnt Mayol ramming him with his head? He could be 20 spots higher know that i think about it. You got Rojas way too high.. Above Mares? Mares beat Vic Darchinyan , and he laid out Rojas not too long ago.
Also Mares,Antillion(East LA),Gomez,Andrade,Ornelas are all raised in Souther Califas/LA area, been here since they were kids or before they even walked. Molina is from Chitown you can make a case for them being pochos even thought Born in Mexico.. Segura learned how to box in Los and been here half his life.
Dayum! That's a list. I can only pick 4 clash with that. Milan melindo- flyweight Froilan saludar -flyweight Jason Pagara-lightwelter mercito Gesta-lightweight
Well, IMO IT's about the country that you represent but we can take him out, no problem. Yep, it was a headbutt...And Mares is above Rojas, who is #2 in his class after beating 2 Japanese fighters as visitor plus he's got the skills, I love his technique.
True, most of their careers have been in the USA however I don't think any if them has US nationallity (maybe only Molina and Antillón hold both but Urbano says he's a Mexican from Chihuahua). I mean, I think even Segura wasn't allowed to the US not long ago! All those fighters just consider themselves Mexican and were born here so you first have to say they're Mexican and then US American in any case (and that only for Antillón/Molina, maybe the Andrades too). That unlike Rios or Ortiz who are first American for as much as I would like it to be the otjer way around...Then for example with Guerrero he's never even expressed himself as being Mexican and actually he's like many pochos that try to forget their roots, unlike for example Steven Luévano.
Great list but Marga Cheato should be dropped down to 50 not sure why he would rate over Barrera being a cheater and all ..Solid list though ..