(PIC) Obesequiao — Pacquiao Lookin' Old And Fat In Training Camp (!)

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  1. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For your first point, with this information that's well documented, why don't someone do something about it besides document it? Red flag? Oh ok cool.. Now what?

    Second, no one was doing either before Floyd, so I don't understand.. In hindsight we can determine which is better I guess, but at that time random blood test was just a start...

    Why would there be a penalty for failing a test of paying money? If either failed a test, they'd be banned and fined like anyone else.. That's just a dumb and weird request.. Plus neither failed anyway or even thought they would fail.. Especially since Floyd paid off everyone and USADA don't catch anyone anyway right? lol

    What's funny is that no one really made any fuss about it.. I had to look it up too see if it was true because I don't remember that..lol Mind games maybe? Maybe to hype it up more? The fight went on as if nothing happened anyway so don't know what the point was.. You also don't seem to know that one IV bag can hold 1000ml.. I just Googled it because 15 bags of anything sounds stupid...lol

    You can't request a person's medical records.. If Pac knew he was cheating and was currently in court for being accused by that same guy, why would he take the money to remain quiet? Floyd didn't care about that lawsuit because he didn't even show up to court..lol Paid the settlement and went about his business...

    You know dehydration isn't only from losing weight right? You can get it from heat, excessive activity, insufficient fluid consumption, excessive sweating, or medication side effects.. So basically running outside in the heat without drinking enough will get you dehydrated...
     
  2. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    It's a corrupt sport that the general public doesn't care about and there are already a tiny number of superstars. Floyd has been the face of boxing since Oscar De La Hoya. Low T/E ratios in young, fit makes is a red flag for steroid use.

    They fought in 2015, which was long after VADA had established itself as the gold standard of drug testing while USADA was messing up time and time again.

    Look at the Clenelo-Golovkin rematch. Golovkin missed out on a huge pay day because of Clenelo. Had they put in a $5 million dollar per dirty test penalty, Golovkin would have $11 million instead of the $1 million for Vanes. It's an insurance policy for if a fight is cancelled because the other guy is cheating. If you're clean, why not agree to the best testing and a dirty test penalty?

    Everyone reported on it. USADA, who is Floyd's personal drug testing agency, issued him a TUE. And the IV use was exposed 17 days AFTER the fight, not the day that it happened. IV bags that Floyd used at 50 ml for a total of 750 ml. Dude, grow a brain. Floyd said that McGregor was cheating by using 7 IV bags — 8 less than what he used. ROFLMAO!

    Floyd was fit and strong as an ox at the weigh in. ZERO signs of being drained/dehydrated. And what did he do? Spar after and go running after the weigh in? LMAO! And none of his team members had water to hand him? Get real. And there's dehydrated and severely dehydrated — if Floyd was in fact severely dehydrated to the point to need 15 iV bags, he would have checked into a hospital per WADA code.
     
  3. M.3

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    Again, no one really was doing any blood testing at all.. Everyone was saying let the commission do their job, Floyd was trying to drain Pac by taking all his blood, he's ducking by asking for something never asked before....ect Now years later you talk about which company did the testing.. And the Hornets are stupid for trading Kobe when he was a rookie...lol

    No one tested positive and the fight went on so that point is irrelevant.. If he did agree, nothing would have happened either..

    It was reported that he had 750ml of vitamin and saline mixture.. You know how tiny a 50ml bag is? lol 750ml isn't even a full regular sized one you get when you check in to a hospital.. I doubt he was dehydrated.. I'm guessing that if he wanted to flush his system though, he would do it before the day before the fight, and he would use a bigger IV bag and not multiple small bags.. You say 'bags' as if they're all the same size..lol The TUE was applied for before the fight but was approved after..

    What did Floyd do about McGregor and his use of IV? Bring it up? That's it? Well there's no story there then...

    You made a great point.. He did nothing before or after the weigh in.. Training w over and he was just relaxing.. Why would he still have PEDs that needed to be flushed in his system and why was he not worried about being tested before that? You guys say Canelo cycled his before training camp even started, but Floyd still had drugs in his system the night before the fight..lol His team must suck at PED use.. Surprised they don't get caught every time..lol Unless he paid off USADA.. Then how did they 'catch him in his own home with a needle in his arm' if they were paid off? Makes no sense huh? lol
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It wasn't reported, its a fact. WTF do you think that fake TUE was for 19 days later. Oh sorry, we forgot about that thing?

    It's not a 50ml bag, its 50ml per hour. Since you are trying to play dumb, that limit is there so you cannot dump something like say oh 750ml in your system in 10 minutes like oh say just before taking a test. WHY WOULD THEY PREVENT THIS?? And you admit the TUE was applied for before the fight, so in your wisdom you cannot see how that is pre-planned. They planned to get dehydrated the night before? A get out of jail card at the ready! Seriously!!!??

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  5. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Idiot sees absolutely nothing wrong or hypocritical about Floyd accusing McGregor of cheating with IV bags.

    :lol:
     
  6. M.3

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    You're arguing with the wrong person bro..lol You should quote the Duck_Master..lol

    You saying "it wasn't reported, it's a fact" gave me the Nick Young face...lol

    The TUE situation is on USADA for not informing the NSAC about it until later.. I doubt he was dehydrated like I said in the post that you quoted.. I also doubt he tried to flush his system the night before the fight too like I also said in that same post...
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are one helluva weasel. You say he wasn't dehydrated and yet doubt he flushed his system the night before. Yet, those are two things he either admitted to or are actual facts, like he was caught the night before dumping 750ml into his system. He did admit to being dehydrated yet he had two S&C coaches on his team. And this dumbass **** about NSAC... they accepted the TUE dummy.

    You should stop posting numbnuts.
     
  8. uppercut_to_the_body

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    Should make a movie where an ageing, Old man Pac must protect a young girl who seems to have similar mutant abilities and large cranium to him.

    Call it: Pac
     
  9. M.3

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    Why would he flush his system of PEDs the night before the fight? Shouldn't he have cycled off already? Like you said, he wasn't training or anything.. He's just sitting around with PEDs in his system for no reason but decide the night before the fight is the right time to get them out?

    WTF do you want me to say? We both doubt he was dehydrated.. I don't think he would wait until less than 24hrs before the fight to finally flush the PEDs out of his system, but you do I guess.. If it was such an open and closed case Team Pac would have made a little more noise about it...
     
  10. thesmokingm

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    So he wasn't dehydrated, yet he needed to use illegal IVs in a short time, yet he wasn't flushing his system?

    Team Pac should have done something about it. Like what?

    You enjoy going around in circles much?
     
  11. M.3

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    You haven't answered one thing I asked..lol And you're the one who jumped in the middle of another conversation to take over for dude..

    I told you why I don't believe he flushed his system and you didn't even bother to challenge my reasoning.. That's how debates/arguments work.. Instead, you throw around insults as if your taking me thinking differently offensive or something..

    Pac should have done what GGG did for starters.. Did they even say anything at all? People tell them that Floyd cheated by flushing his system of PEDs the night before the fight and they said 'ok' and went about their business? Pretty dumb to me...
     
  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I answered all your stupid questions and you keep ignoring the answers. Let me reiterate numbnuts.

    He used IVs because he needed to flush his system. That's generally why one slams massive IVs into ones system. Just ask Lance, it's actually very common in cycling. Oh ****, testers are here, stall them while Johan slams this IV bag into my VEINS!

    Right, so how is Pac's team going to do a GGG thing 19 days later? And then how to they get NSAC to change their minds?
     
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    My question was why did he wait until the night before the fight to do it? Why wouldn't he have cycled off already since he was done training.. Sitting around with PEDs in your system for no reason is where I'm confused with...
     
  14. thesmokingm

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    My guess is there was obviously something that they didn't want turning up on the tests. Thus throwing the kitchen sink at it. I think you are missing a crucial point also. Using the IV, the drugs are still in his system however the ratios are so far outweighed by the IV fluids that it renders the test useless. He still gets the benefit of the drugs. Now if you are still in doubt, there are a few cases in sport where an athlete goes from loser to monster in one day.

    The 97' Tour de France where Landis goes from being crack one day to killing the peloton the next day. It was such a miraculous turn around that it went down in history as the greatest single day ride in history... that is until he failed the post race test in equally spectacular fashion. Too bad Landis didn't have IV's handy?
     
  15. mb1233

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    Horn fight proved Pacquiao's best days are behind him.