Pick A Era, Year & Path For "Bad" Bennie Briscoe To Win Middleweight Gold

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    So, here's the prompt, if you choose to accept it. :hang

    Is there any time in the one belt era where you would favor Bad Bennie to become the lineal middleweight champ, even if just for one fight? Against who, and in what form would he have to be? What is the earliest and latest you can see him doing so?

    How does he do once the belts fragment? Could he ever put together a GGG like run against average opposition if matched in a certain way? Would you consider Bennie a inconsistent fighter, or merely one with a lot of questionable and close decisions on his record who fought on way too long?

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    There's footage of Briscoe putting Hart face down on the canvas in under one round here.

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  2. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bennie was as tough as they come. I would have loved to seen how he would have matched up with Graziano, Zale, Zivic, Cerdan, Robinson, Burley and even Lamotta. He certainly would have won and lost his fair sure but it would have been fun too watch.

    I also would have loved to have seen him against Giardello and Tiger. He did beat George Benton but that was at the end of Benton's career.
     
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  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    What makes this hard is BBB inconsistency
     
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  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well I already asked a question that I think is important here... was Bennie truly inconsistent in his prime or did he simply take a lot of fights in his opponents backyards? You also have to ask yourself what his record would look like with fair judging.
     
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  5. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is a very good point and one thing that drives me crazy on this forum. I have seen people that don't no any better just look at a fighters record and see a bunch of losses and just assume that means they were bad. Bennie fought for years against very tough competition and on the road and was only knocked out once. Like Dick Tiger before him and Glen Johnson after him, he was a truth machine. I guarantee every one that fought him, respected him.
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd say anyone who had Monzon reeling around nearly out of there is live against just about any middleweight to ever live.

    Briscoe was no fancy dan boxer, sure, but there was certainly technique, thought and artistry in his brand of wear you down, attrition based, body punching brutality and violence.

    Skilled boxers could navigate around the power and durability he brought to every fight but knocking him out or hurting him was all but an impossibility and he was sure to make you work for your win over the long term.

    It might be sacrilege on some parts of this board but the likes of GGG would have at least a dozen losses on their records if they fought Briscoe's exact career under the circumstances Bennie had to. I would wager good money on it, actually.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

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    I wouldn't have him as the favourite in the one belt era to beat any of the past lineal champions to be quite honest.

    It would be great to see him take on the likes of Basilio, LaMotta, though I'm sure they would be absolute wars.

    PS I just had a look at the lineal Middleweight champions maybe he could beat Paul Bender, Terry Downes, I don't know alot about them though honestly.
     
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  8. Clinton

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    Agreed. This is a man that had something like 95 fights over 18 years against some crazy completion. Of course he was going to lose alot because he was fighting once every 2 to 2 1/2 months for 18 years on average. That is unheard of these days
     
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  9. Clinton

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    Personally, I would favor Bennie over Glen Johnson at 160.
     
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  10. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bennie Briscoe vs GGG would've been fun.
     
  11. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would too. I was using Johnson as a later day example of a similar fighter that had a bad record but was a beast of a fighter. Johnson, like Brisco would fight anyone regardless of location or even weight class. He gave everyone tough fights like Brisco did.
     
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  12. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Guys.
    As Mary Hopkin might have said " those were the days " of all the good and great fighters that I grew up with : Napoles, Olivares, Hafey, Chacon, Lopez, Bennie Briscoe has left a lasting impression on me, that will never fade, even the name is iconic, and in sync, I was never more in a hurry to get my Boxing News than when Bennie had fought the week before, the star of david on the shorts, the shaven skull, I know it had been done before him, but did it suit anybody better than him, methinks not, standing between rounds, not many favoured that, didn't bother Briscoe, we know that all fighters to a degree have no fear, but Bennie was not only fearless, he himself exuded fear, I can still see the front of BN back in the early 70s with a picture of him playing a piano ? with his hands bandaged, the headline being " Briscoe a fighter that trades in fear " the great but insular Monzon always had time for him, and always greeted Bennie with huge respect and admiration whenever their paths crossed, and is in print saying Bennie gave him his hardest fights, as to whom he would beat, he would beat some, and lose ( points ) to some, but they would all have to bring their A game, and be prepared for a long war of attrition.
    Thanks for the post Russell, as with all of yours, it was interesting and incisive.
    stay safe buddy, chat soon.
     
  13. Flo_Raiden

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    In the one belt era it would be difficult for Briscoe to capture a title given the amount of top shelf fighters from the 40s and 50s. Perhaps he could do well for himself to possibly get a title during the 20s or 30s though.

    Briscoe would surely win a belt in today's MW era which has become a total drought for some time now.
     
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