Picture of Sonny Liston and Rocky Marciano

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  1. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    I get the impression that the Rocky disciples are actually trying to convince themselves more than they are the detractors.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is hilarious.after the 1st round against Mathews Goldman instructed Rocky to stand still! Walcott gave Marciano
    a boxing lesson until his 38 year old legs began to go and he resorted to doing what older fighter do to steal a rest ,going to the ropes. Marciano beat Layne by targeting his soft stomach,"this big farmer is made for us"Goldman to Marciano.He crowded him at the start then he used distance so he could get full leverage on his looping swings.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rocky didn't balloon up, he just became a modern heavyweight.
     
  4. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The hell are you talking about, I'm talking about how explosively he swung with certain punches and darted into the inside. His knockout of LaStarza was also quite explosive. He isn't Dempsey or anything, but people seem to overrate his defense and underrated his explosiveeness

    Obviously Goldman knew something about the speed-strength curve
     
  5. choklab

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    Why is it you see anyone who reasonably picks Rocky in a fight has to be attacked as a “Rocky disciple”?

    Maybe it’s just somebody who disagrees with you?

    This never works the other way does it?

    Why can’t it be that folks are making a fair judgment based on knowledge and evidence.
     
  6. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Hey Mac,
    I think you hit the nail on the head with that thread you did a couple yrs back.

    Would we see this level of biblical proportions if he was from a different ethnic background & religion.
    Before anyone fires up, i am caucasian myself.
     
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  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Clasps hands Lord I'm sorry for making a Marciano thread where I dared to mention him in the same sentence as Sonny Liston. Please forgive me and end my suffering of a 150 comment war on my thread

    Amen
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As an amateur an out of condition Marciano was getting beat up so he resorted to kicking his opponent in the nuts.

    ie,He quit like a cur!
     
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  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What a strange post.
     
  10. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clutching at straws here.....
     
  11. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That ain't quitting, that's cheating. Exact opposite of quiting, at least it proves you'll do anything to win

    "If you ain't cheating you ain't trying"

    (Sarcasm)
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can mention him in the same sentence as anyone you like,but when Rockista's start with their mythical eulogizing some of the more saner of us will always take them to task.Its called objective balance.
     
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  13. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    I prefer the term " Thought provoking "
     
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  14. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No it proves you will deliberately foul out to escape a beating. eg Harry Wills against Sharkey,Tyson against Holyfield,Richardson against Williams.
    ps The opponent Marciano fouled out against was Ted Lester.
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A cold fact that you will not address.Just as you didnt Liston going8 rds with a broken jaw and winning a fight with a broken nose. Nor who huge punchers like Lyle , Ruddock,Foster,Morrison ko'd?
     
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