Picture of Sonny Liston and Rocky Marciano

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    To be fair, everything he said was right. It just so happened he left out Rocky being an ATG Heavyweight as well
     
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  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I am not even going to take the bait. All the best Mathew.
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    What do you find that is inaccurate in his post?
     
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  4. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Calling Rocky a cruiserweight is sus, it belies disrespect in my eyes. The cruiserweight division isn't worthy of his name nor did he fight only cruisers.

    Liston isn't a stylistic nightmare, and Charles put up a fantastic performance despite being slightly past it
     
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  5. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Style advantage. The rest is just opinion.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Lol. He was a cruiserweight by size, by being below 200lbs, or 190, he's worthy of being a CW.
    Charles was like 15 fights removed from his prime, he just put up an unbelievable performance. He said Liston had a style advantage, which a stand-his-ground boxer-puncher, should.
     
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  7. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    Why can't I find this guy on Sonny Liston's boxrec!! Anyone?!
     
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  8. mcvey

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    Wrong once again!
     
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  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Who above cruiserweight limit did he fight who is worth mentioning?
     
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  10. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    You know what I mean George, it implies Marciano isnt worthy to be classed with 200+lbs heavyweights, despite he himself fighting in an open division against 200+lbs fighters. It is unfair, he did not fight in the weight capped cruiser class. Nor did Dempsey, nor did Patterson. It is disrespectful. The division Rocky fought in was the open class, heavyweight.
     
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  11. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Doesnt matter, stop war mongering as well
     
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  12. choklab

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    Style advantage isn’t a thing. It’s a made up internet expression.

    Size is not a style. Punch is not a style. The style itself is just a style.

    Tactical advantage is a thing. A tactical advantage within a style is a thing. And since there are tactics within all styles to beat every style it proves style itself is not an advantage on its own.

    It’s as stupid as saying somebody had a hairstyle advantage.

    Which in most cases people did since Rocky had thinning hair.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    Lol I stopped reading
     
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  14. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Again dumb comment!
    First Martin was not light hitter!
    Second Ali was light hitter and Marty Marshall was so but they had very good chins!
    Cleveland had glass jaw!He was knocked in 3 rounds by LHW Bob Satterfield and light hitting Ali who made Williams looks weak!!
    Rocky not only had excellent chin but bigger power than Williams!
    Only good chin is good against Liston which Machen,Ali,Marshall...proved!
    Rocky not only did have better chin but better power than all of those!
    I would pick 1951/1952 Marciano against everyone except George Foreman but even then I am not sure that Foreman would do to Marciano what he did to Frazier because Rocky was much better than Frazier(chin,power,used both hands,crouch lower and he would make Foreman unable to land his uppercut)!
    Marciano would stood there and punish Liston arms and ribs and Liston would quit or he would be knocked by that crazy overhand right!Martin and Foster overhands are not even close to Rocky!
     
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  15. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    You literally just described style advantage, just with more semantics.
     
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