Picture of Sonny Liston and Rocky Marciano

Not at all. I explained why it isn’t a thing. Fighters of all shapes and sizes beat each other. Not with style but with tactics.

If style advantage was a thing then every guy of one style would always lose to a guy of a certain style. It just isn’t a thing. That’s bull crap. It’s for people who don’t understand boxing. Or for people who are trying to find contrasts with other sports. And boxing is not even complicated.

 

It’s funny because initially I thought Liston had the advantage with his style but the more I watch Liston the more I think he would be in trouble against the likes of Foreman or Marciano and maybe Frazier. He was so slow he almost made Marciano look fast (don’t get me wrong I think stylistically Liston does great against a lot of great fighters...I actually have him in my top 5 or 6 HWs). The more I watch of him the more I see Marciano beating him in an interesting fight. I see Marciano countering Listons jab and making his body pay early. Think it’s an easier fight for Rocky then Walcott. Styles that bother Marciano are those with great foot work (Walcott Charles Lastarza) stand one front of him like Layne or Louis and he’s gonna chop u down. Historically speaking I see Ali Holmes Tunney Fury Lewis those styles giving him fits

 

Exactly. Foreman beating up Frazier is one example of of a bigger slugger beating up on a smaller one. And Brewster beating up on Wlad is one where the smaller guy wins. It works both ways. Then there are all the other things to factor in like Patterson not being anything like Marciano and Frazier not being anything like the prime version of Frazier that beat Ali, Ellis, Quarry And Foster. Career timing. Primes. Strategy, heart and class.

Simplifying everything to “style advantage” as a Rock Paper Scissors solution is ridiculous in combat sports.

 

Today's boxing fans who criticize Marciano based on his weight/height etc. remind me of those scumbag "ex post facto" lawmakers; trashing a man based on nothing more than his natural limitations (heavily influenced by the times he lived/grew up in) in regards to a future era is a special kind of low and/or ignorant.

These are usually the same superficial tools that confuse boxing with bodybuilding.

 

This is the 665th post in the photo saga. The next post after mine will be 666. You will be haunted by the Marciano Demon. You have been warned.

 

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And I am glad of it. Go forth my son and defend the truth!

 

I am the modern prodigy. Given you've drastically improved my opinion of Marciano over the last few months, I'd say your winning

 

Just stop. Right properly, and act intelligent before claiming other people's comments are dumb.

#1, Your point was that because Liston was stopped by light hitters, he'd be stopped by Rocky coz he was a hard hitter, using that logic, any hard hitter should've stopped Liston, which was objectively wrong. Which I showed and your thick ****ing head can't comprehend that.

#2, if you favour Rocky over anyone but Foreman, your deluded. Beyond help. Mike Tyson would put him in a body bag, Ali and Holmes would embarrass him. Lewis and Bowe would make him sleep for a considerable length of time.

#3, Frazier is definitely not much worse than Rocky. If anything, he's better.

#4, who said Martin or Foster had overhands better than Rocky?

 

You seem triggered.

 

Bravo well said sir.

 

Liston,prime Liston did not give anything away to Marciano in terms of speed. If you want to give Liston a style dream match Marciano fits the bill.

Williams was an aggressive, two-handed hitter who carried real dynamite in each fist; He was a very powerful hitter who is most famous for his "showdown" battles with Sonny Liston; He may have become Heavyweight Champion had Liston not been around at that time

Please tell me how Brewster 4 inches shorter than Wlad and17lbs lighter became a bigger opponent than Wlad?
You really are totally fully of crap!

 

Liston was slow which many power flat footed power hitters are (foreman Marciano and Liston come to mind). Probably very similar in speed. Listons jab was strong/heavy but damn was it slow. And not for nothing Cleveland never had a real shot at the title. Good contender but never serious. Layne had several better wins then he does and would be viewed more favorably historically if he hadn’t just given up after the Marciano fight. To Cleveland’s credit there he always was in good shape

 

on what planet? Isn’t this the same guy who couldn’t dent Frankie Daniels in 10 rounds?

Liston squashed Frankie Daniels in one round. One fight later Williams cannot budge the little dude. This hero worship of Williams and comparison with Sonny Liston has to stop.

Liston was a great fighter. And Williams wasn’t. Liston smashed Williams just like he smashed Daniels. It’s time to move on.

Compare Williams with Retzlaf and comiskey. Not champions.

no Brewster was a smaller guy to Wlad in the way Frazier was also smaller than Foreman. The comparison is, sometimes the smaller guy wins and sometimes the big man wins. Nothing to do with style advantage It wasn’t anything to do with one of them growing bigger.