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There is no contradiction whatsoever. I love boxing and despise dog fighting.

In boxing, it's everyone's FREE CHOICE to participate in it. It is a sport that is conducted under controlled conditions with protective gear and a referee. It isn't a free-for-all street fight.

Dog fights are forced upon the participants. There is no free choice. In addition, these dogs are trained to become more vicious by being beaten and generally abused. Boxers aren't, unless they want it that way.
Oh yeah...boxers don't beat up defenceless, timid men in sparring sessions either. Fighting dogs are often trained to fight by using helpless animals as bait, which are torn to shreds.

Lastly, old boxers can retire, some to a life of anonymity and others to a life where they enjoy the adulation of millions of fans. In either case, they are usually comfortable in retirement.

Now tell me, what happens to old fighting dogs?

Dog fighting goes way deeper than the actual fighting.

 

An old fighting dog that has proved itself will be kept & used for stud its blood , like that of a racehorse is prized & it will live out its life sowing its seed basically...........
From your post I see yet another poster who just cant face the truth of things & is spewing out media presented bull**** as his argument..........Of course obscene cruelty goes on but not on the scale the media presents as in hunting most genuine dogmen care for their animals 100 times better than most ****ing pet owners.It comes across that I'm defending dogfighting , Im not but I'm just trying to point out that so many people just take what the papers & newreels say as gospel , I mean FIST OF FURY with his comments of "Dog fights are forced upon the participants. There is no free choice. In addition, these dogs are trained to become more vicious by being beaten and generally abused" - It just shows total ignorance to what really goes on , As a man who hunts his dogs I can verify that an animal will not work better for you if you beat & abuse it.....!!!!!!!!........Lets look at the crowds for a moment , Fightfans at ringside are there to see there hero beat the **** out of there opponent , FACT , They want to see their hero win ,FACT , They want to see blood & knockdowns , FACT - What would happen if on the night of a fight thier man pulled out because he didnt "fancy it" , I'll tell you there would be ****ing uproar & slatings by the media , A man you has nothing in his life except his skill with his hands in the ring is by & large forced into that ring (See some of Eubanks comments) - The cold hard question is that if fighters were forced into match ups would fight fans stop watching.............????............I think not as its human nature to enjoy sporting combat & has been since the beginning of time , I think it just scares some fightfans when the obvious similarities between dogfighting & boxing are made - Its OK for you to watch a man die in the ring because , Hey..!! its his choice , but you'll still be ****ing cheering as the punches land & he hits the canvas but Damn those sick ****ers who watch 2 dogs at it , thats just cruel................................Pure contradiction my friend...

 

some dog fights are like this...for sure...genuine dog fighters look after their dogs and abide by rules and a code of practice...im like most people, i cant stand the thought of dog fighting in any way, shape or form, but there are huge differences between traditional dog fighting afficionados and the kind of people who starve and beat their dogs and physically and mentally abuse them for their own pleasure......a huge difference too, if you like, between genuine boxing fans and the kind of fan who goes to a warehouse to watch two guys compete in a gouging, butting and punching contest that can end in one participant broken and blinded......there are parallels however unpleasant you mind find them....

 

I have a Staffordshire (rescue dog )which is very well natured and I cannot understand people who treat animals badly. It can result in people getting badly injured/killed and gives the breed a bad rep. Animals lives should be worth as much as a humans IMO, we are the ones destroying the planet..Rant over

 

i agree....i have a labrador, a staffy/pit cross and a lab/rotty cross and if anyone or anything hurt any of my dogs id most probably end up inside....i find the thought of dog fighting nauseating, but do know there is a huge difference between genuine participants and the kind of underground back yard practices engaged in by some total animals.......just as there is 'twixt genuine fight fans and the kind who just wanna see someone hurt in a blood and guts spectacle....

 

So, a guy who engages his dogs in dog fighting in a "genuine dog man"?
And what does "dog man" mean actually?
The fact that you hunt your dogs doesn't mean diddly **** to me. I've been around dogs, great and small, my entire life. Doing what you do makes you no more informed about dogs than any other pet owner.

Well, enlighten me then, since you seem to be much more clued up on dog fighting. What really goes on?
They're not beaten? They're not trained to fight? They don't alllow them to hone their skills on other animals? They're not forced to do so? Why is it illegal in the first place? Why do places like the SPCA try to lock it down?
My bad...it's all sunshine and roses after all. :good

I'm going to give you a scenario - you fill in the blanks:

A dog gets badly injured in a dog fight. Let's say his leg gets broken somehow, and the dog badly mauled. It's owner does the following................................

You say it's contradictory to watch boxing and dog fighting. Why?

The fact is the small matter of choice makes a huge difference. There is the visceral side to boxing and yeah, who doesn't love it, but the fact that it's condoned by the participants makes all the difference.

If a boxer wants to gets his nose squashed, his brains scrambled and his jaw broken that's his choice. Since he's okay with that, then I am too.

If a two men were shoved into a ring by a group of people against their will, I wouldn't watch it. I hate any enforced violence, or where people or animals are coerced to fight.

 

Fighting is an emotion found in humans and animals- but i do find cage fighting pretty sick

 

what your describing is the kind of dog fighting and dog fighting fans who deserve to be jailed and should never under any circumstances be allowed to keep animals..these people do exist..the kind of dogfights they particiapate in or watch are, as you rightly point out, between borderline emaciated dogs with mentalitys that are so scarred they are hair trigger sensitive and have two primeval instincts left, fight or flight.......so they fight.......i find ALL dog fighting abhorrent, it sickens me to the pit of my stomach...but conversley, real dog fighting people do care for their dogs and find the people described above to be as morally reprehensible as you and i do..perhaps the old guard of 'respectable' dog fighters, if it can be described as thus, are dying out, and this new breed of inhuman callous imbecile is in the ascendancy, but as much as the whole idea personally sickens me, i can at least grasp the concept that even such a horrendous 'sport' has two sides....and, as a proponent of mma, i cant see how cage fighting should sicken anyone...unlicensed warehouse cage fighting sure, just as unlicensed bare knuckle or gloved boxing is a sickener, but real mma under proper nevada state athletic comission rules is as relevant and well supervised as any martial art...

 

Big G pretty much summed it up........
The problem is Fists you are skirting around the question & similarities between dogfighting & boxing I'm afraid.
CONDONED blood & guts is OK but dogfighting is'nt !!!!!!!!!!!!
Although personally dogfighting isnt for me I wouldnt judge the true "oldguard" as BigG put it for pursuing their chosen sport , As I said not for me but a dog that is well looked after & treated well & then honed to its physical peak for matching is the owners buisness , Pricks who mistreat & force out of shape animals together are a different ball game..............My question is that as a spectator WHY do you watch boxing.........??????.........I'll tell you to see someone hurt his opponent into submission or to knock them out , If someone dies as a result or suffers brain damage..........fine because its condoned !!!!!!!!!!!............Stop being a ****ing hypocrite man...........

 

The key word is wish. Any person can wish, hope, or hold ill will as they please. You can disagree with it, but you cant tell me what to do especially when the law says I can.

If Mcclellan agreed to fight with knowledge that he had a brain clot, then its his own fault. He made the choice, and now hes living with it. Dont blame King its not like he tied him up and forced into the ring.:good

 

How aware was GMan about his condition?? Surely he would have realised that a clot was causing the probs and pulled out earlier in the fight. It doesnt add up

 

Dog fighting doesn't look too cool to me :

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Wow this thread is still going!

 

The distinctions between dog fighting and boxing are VAST.
People say we watch boxing for brutality, yep, that's true.

But i would feel sick watching two slaves fighting to the death, or until seriously maimed, against their will. That would be the human equivalent of dog fighting, slaves in chains, or prisoners in a Nazi death camp. A far cry from pro boxing.

Sure, if two free and adult-minded men are willing to fight with axes or knives or bare-handed to the death, assumedly for great financial reward, then that could pass as a "sport" and you could draw moral similarities to boxing. But being WILLING and FREE are the deciding factors, obviously.