Pinklon Thomas v Gerrie Coetzee

Page lost to "Spoon & Tubbs" in 1984 & 1985.....:deal

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Page got revenge over Spoon in 1999 when both guys were way past their best days.........:shock:

 

Never saw the fight with Coetzee.I do think Pinklon was a good fighter though.Larry Holmes certainly wanted nothing to do with him.I was only in my teens at the time Thomas and the so called lost generation were fighting,and as i remember the only fights we got to see in the uk were delayed view on sports night.I did watch Pinky fight Tyson and was impressed with him,good jab,good chin(he took a load in the 1st)It seemed as though he was a guy who could have been a really good champ but got beaten to it by Mike.

 

Thomas actually conquered (at the time) a bigtime heroin addiction well before his first big fights against Tillis and Coetzee.

Chuck, he's a champ!!! Watched his interview with Ali just the other day. Awesome value.

Hembrick, yes, a disappointment from memory.

 

Much better post. Tho a bit flat Thomas actually did some good things against Tyson. I was surprised when rewatching it a few months back. He certainly did more that most around the time, just a shame his punches seemed to lack a bit of snap and sting.

 

It wasn't Weaver that ruined Thomas, and you know it

Pretty much ALL the top heavies from the early 80's put in lackadaisical performances at one time or another, or many times. Thomas was at least solid for some years in a row.

 

In my book, the BEST / GREATEST heavyweight title fights of the 1980s were: "Holmes-Snipes, Holmes-Cooney, Dokes-Weaver 2, Holmes-Spoon, Coetzee-Dokes, Thomas-Weaver, Holmes-Spinks '86, Tyson-Berbick, Tyson-Thomas & Tyson-Bruno 1."

I totally DISCOUNT other 80s title fights like: "Tyson-Spinks, Holmes-M. Frazier, Smith-Spoon, Page-Tubbs, Spoon-Tubbs, Tyson-Smith, Thomas-Berbick, Tyson-Tucker & Tyson-Carl Williams" because these fights were either dull or totally mismatched altogether....

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Not so sure about Holmes - Snipes. Coetzee - Dokes was actually a bit one sided, but upsets are always eventful i guess. Holmes was routinely beating Snipes, a flash KD, Holmes regains control fast and stops him and Snipes goes childishly ballistic at the end. Not that great a fight IMO. Thomas - Coetzee belongs.

You've also missed what is probably the best Heavyweight fight of the 80's, Dokes - Holyfield.

 

LOL, I was referring to John Thomas, not Pinklon.

 

Yes, but "Thomas-Coetzee" and "Dokes-Holy" were NOT title fights..... Still, I agree, damn good stuff for the 80s.......:yep

As for "Holmes-Snipes," I only add it to my list 'cause I watched it live on the tube in '81, and I really did not expect any fireworks to surprise me prior to the event..... Snipes was out-classed, but game.....:yep

I suppose "Holmes vs. Carl Williams" was also a good fight and a bit of a surprise..... Williams was suppose to be fodder for Holmes in '85.... It was a good 15 rd. fight that saw just how old Holmes was getting....

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A bit closer reading might have helped me atsch

He was determined alright.

Yeah Holmes was slipping loads by then. Winning as much on heart and determination as anything else. The Holmes heart and determination was huge.

 

Agreed mate. Dokes - Holyfield was definately the best heavyweight fight of the 80's and one of my top all time...

 

Well, when in the proper shape, Michael Dokes and Tim Witherspoon were the BEST heavies of the 80s just south of "Holmes & Tyson.":good Pinklon Thomas and Tony Tubbs were "Runner UP" guys / dudes just behind the second lot...

Greg Page and Tony Tucker were over-hyped and have been overrated... Neither guy ever did anything really thrilling or impressive....:shock:

James Smith, Mike Weaver & Trevor Berbick were slower than Molasses, but pretty strong and powerful.... However, each one of these guys could be outboxed by a skilled technician....:deal

Gerrie Coetzee could whack hard, but normally had poor stamina and no self-confidence.....:yikes

Buster Douglas was a lazy slob who was wasting his talent away in the 80s....atsch

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GTF out of here. Page had some brilliant (performance wise) wins coming thru the ranks and beat Snipes far easier than Holmes ever did. He also fought superbly to actually outfight Gerrie Coetzee who was coming off a KO of the heavily favoured and regarded Dokes. Maybe you haven't seen much Page at all excepting his numerous lethargic efforts.

 

I was not impressed with Greg Page beating George Chaplin and looking fat and jiggily at 240 bloated pounds or so in 1981..... Then Page slimmed down to like 221 pounds for Trevor Berbick in 1982, but Page looked weak and lackluster in losing a decision to Berbick... After that, Greg Page had a good win in Texas over James Tillis to close out 1982.... Come '83, Page outboxed Renaldo Snipes pretty easily on the undercard of "Holmes-Spoon." That was about the last we ever saw of a primed Greg Page.... His title shot with Larry Holmes fell through in late 1983, and Holmes either vacated or was stripped of the WBC title belt in late '83, so Page was forced to settle with a vacant title shot against Tim Witherspoon in March of 1984, which Page again showed up fat and lazy, and lost..... Meanwhile, Larry Holmes accepted the IBF title belt..... In late 1984, Greg Page put forth one last good effort and stopped Gerrie Coetzee for the WBA title down in South America..... Come 1985, Greg Page was sliding down the hill; never to return to glory... His title loss to Tony Tubbs in '85 was a tell-tale sign that Page was lazy and slipping...... I think in 1986, Page was knocked silly by a clubfighter..... I can't recall the dudes name, but it was a shocking upset.... By 1987, Greg Page no longer had a cable contract or any real big fights lined up..... I do have his 1992 effort against Razor Ruddock.. Page was game---for a while, but he got himself TKO'd by Ruddock on cable TV......... Yeah, I know a little something about Gregory Page...... Peace........:yep:bbb:shock::good:deal

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In 1990, on the undercard of "Whitaker-Nelson" on HBO, Greg Page was KO'd with one punch by Mark Wills prior to the main event...... Page got up, but he was on ***** street, so he was stopped in around the 9th round.......

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Christ, it was Mark Wills who stopped Page twice in '86 and 1990..... And how the hell did Page manage to lose to a 37 year old Joe Bugner in 1987??

Greg Page's biggest wins of the 90s were against James Smith in 1992 and Tim Witherspoon in 1999........