Pinoy Journalist think Pac win a sham?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by divac, Mar 27, 2008.


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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I never said that were three close rounds, find the post that I said that in......

    ......I did'nt open this thread to debate that however.

    One thing UD, are you Pinoy?

    .....and if you are, why do you keep dodging the question that this thread posed.

    Are there more Pinoy journalist than just Ricah that feel the same way.

    Honestly you guys are going out of your way to avoid that question.
     
    divac, Mar 28, 2008
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  2. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    yes, atty ed tolentino. he's also a 'sports' journalist although sometimes he writes shitty articles. he also thinks that jmm won CONVINCINGLY. happy now?
     
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  3. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    recah is a hater and that's a fact. you can ask around. there is not a single soul here that defended recah. that dude is twisted. there are a lot of journalists that scored it for jmm. two of the three anchors during the broadcast here in the philippines scored it 114-113 for jmm. that's chino trinidad and nonito donaire. same as my scorecard.

    none of them said it was a robbery. there were also people who were not impressed with pac's performance and they openly said that. still none of them called it a robbery. one respected analyst here said that jmm is a really bad match up against pac and that pac will always look bad against a fighter like jmm, he didn't say it was a robbery either.

    i am not trying to hide the fact that some people scored it for jmm. i've said from the very first day that even i scored it for jmm. why don't you try to read on mexican newspapers. maybe some of them actually agreed with the decision. that will neutralize your arguement. since you value a single filipino writer's opinion so damn much
     
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  4. Totomabs

    Totomabs Sauna Belt Holder Full Member

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    have you tried reading your own post?:huh I'm telling you man, it really looks pathetic. :-(

    Let's move on my friend. Who knows, maybe a Pacman-JMM 3 might come to fruition. Let's look forward to it instead, don't you think?;)

    quit whining, lose the hate and win more friends. Sounds like a better deal eh?:deal
     
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  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its not about being happy, its about being informed.......

    I know here in the US, there are plenty of high profile people that think JMM won clearly.....the guys at ESPN for example.....
    ....Max Kellerman and Bob Papa of HBO after dark.....
    ....Emmanuel Steward, etc......

    I know here in the US, where Pac is popular, there are a great deal of people who thought JMM should have won....

    I just want to educate myself on how the Phillipine media feel about the decision, but you Pac hardcores here at ESB are having a hissy fit about it......

    I few other guys beside Ricah have been mentioned, which is what I was suspecting reading articles like Ricah's......

    .....any others other there my ESB Pinoy buddies.....bring them out to the forefront.....I know they're out there!

    I opened this thead to get educated on the Pinoy journalist, dont have a fit over it gentleman!:D
     
    divac, Mar 28, 2008
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  6. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i did read. my earlier post. i said we are not trying to hide the fact that there are people who scored it for jmm. none of them said it was a robbery. unlike gorres-darchinyan, you could all here the commentators saying that is was a hometown decision
     
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  7. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there's is only one word to decribe quinito. pacdbest. nuff said
     
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  8. boxbox

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    They were part of the few who got emotionally attached to the fight, they had expectations from Pac that didnt happen. Thus making them criticize Pac. But eventually, biased or not, they had a change of heart after watching the fight a few more times just like the others. It was a very close fight that isnt deserving to be called a robbery.
    These journalists have moved on and is now writing about the upcoming fight PAC-DIAZ. Im expecting another crazy commentary from these writers:yep
     
    boxbox, Mar 28, 2008
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  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats what I was looking for from you, and I had to pry it out of you to come out with it.

    You take just a single sentence out of a post of mine that does'nt satisfy your fancy and you dwell on it.....neglecting in the process to answer on the heart of the thread topic and the question I posed.

    Again, alot of people score it close, but lets not hide the fact that almost every forum with a poll asking who the winner was, has JMM winning the poll.
    Just in that sense, we can conclude that there is reason to believe that the wrong man had his hand raised.


    For anyone out there that thinks I'm out of line bringing this up, do me a favor and dont respond.
    No responses and naturally I'll drop the subject.

    Whenever I see crap being spewed, I likely turn the page and dont respond.

    Again, if you guys dont like my point of view, move on and get out of this thread!
     
    divac, Mar 28, 2008
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  10. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Divac, sports journalist here in the country, unfortunately, are very few...the very same commentators that covers a basketball game are the very same people who covers a boxing match.:patsch You'd be surprised that they are also covering cockfights and billiards!. What i mean is, they monopolize this part of the media and in doing so, they sacrifice the needed concentration to fully analyze a fight. I mean if you're going to be a boxing commentator, atleast let the others handle basketball or billiards..but NO! they always want that camera pointed at them! They are not so credible especially when they give their funny opinions. Thats why i prefer to get my boxing news here at ESB. '"Jack of all trades, master of none"
     
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  11. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    as i've said before, the last thing you want to look at if you want a boxing related article is in filipino newspapers. they are the ones who call juan manuel as juan miguel, they say juanma lopez is mexican, they still think juan diaz is the unified 135 champ etc. there are almost no credible writers in the dailies here.
     
    theunderdog, Mar 28, 2008
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  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Friend, its not much different here in the US........Major newpapers in this country actually send out journalist who could't tell a cross from an uppercut.......

    Most major newpapers in the US dont really cover boxing unless its a huge type superfight......
    .....I think that right there would show just how credible their opinion would be trying to rationalize what took place in a boxing match.

    The Phillipines is not alone is what I'm saying, there is a depravity in fine boxing journalist here in the US as well.

    There is a few good ones out there no doubt, but just not enough!
    Too many BOZO journalist trying to piece out the goings on in a boxing match just is'nt pleasing to those that like fine boxing journalism from someone who is really educated in the sport.
     
    divac, Mar 28, 2008
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  13. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Media, in general, sucks here...they are employed by influential people and will only give you the part they want announced. and they cry "freedom of the press!!" BS
     
    boxbox, Mar 28, 2008
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  14. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sad:?
     
    boxbox, Mar 28, 2008
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  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll be back tommorow guys......

    I've got a long workday tommorow, and I need to get a few hours of sleep......

    I've still got a few more probing questions on this issue I want to bring up.....
    ....but like I said, if you guys want to honestly chat on the matter....I'd love to here from you all.

    For those that are angered with me probing on an issue that relates to JMM-Pac and the decision handed.......those that want to move on and not talk about it.....please dont stall the thread by responding, "let it go divac, move on."
    .....off the thread if you dont like it.

    I'm here to get educated on the matters of boxing and the ambience of which the Pinoy media had to say on the matter of JMM-Pac rematch.

    For those who want to stick around the thread and get me informed, I'd appreciate the education!:good

    Leave me feedback....I'm off to sleep right now, but I'll be back to probe again tommorow!:hey :hi: :bbb ;)
     
    divac, Mar 28, 2008
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