Pipino Cuevas vs Miguel Cotto @147

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    If as many people saw and researched the two fighters here as opposed to how many have already seen Mike Jones blow out over hyped and thoroughly protected Mike Jones some odd years ago, there might be a little more respect for fighters like Cuevas.

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    Cuevas' opponent here went on to have a 93-5-4 resume when he called it quits, and he was only stopped twice in the 800 plus rounds of his pro career. The other stoppage by in-between rounds on an injury. This fight alone alone trumps any kind of chin busting Randal Bailey ever accomplished.
     
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  2. Russell

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    Cuevas had that literal "separate you from your senses" kind of power. Campanino looks unable to even properly holds his arms up and doesn't seem to know what's happening after two short left hooks from Cuevas. It's as if he was suddenly struck drunk.
     
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  3. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cuevas was all one way every thing he throws is full power .Simple but effective I don't think Cotto could cope with that in the long run.Cotto gets in the lead but Cuevas stops him in about seven.
     
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  4. Russell

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    Cotto was lucky to make it past an authentic puncher in Ricardo Torres... and no one is ever going to mistake Ricardo Torres for Pipino Cuevas in terms of ability and accomplishments.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Good to see Pipino getting his due in here recently. The guy was a wrecking ball but seems to get remembered more for the Hearns loss than his reign of terror.
     
  6. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    As a few others have stated Cuevas was all wrong for Cotto.

    Pipino would have caught up with Cotto in my opinion. I believe Miguel might have had a bit of luck early with his jab, boxing skills and movement but Cuevas threw every punch with bad intentions and had very good stamina despite being a kayo artist. I reckon he would have caught up with Cotto by the mid part of the fight.

    Cuevas was a bit like Benitez in the fact he was a world champion as a teenager and basically finished before his 28th birthday. He started fighting pro as a fourteen year old kid which is pretty freaky.

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  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pipino had as difficult an early career as any great modern fighter... turning pro at the age of 14 and then picking up 5 losses before the time he turned 15. All in his first dozen fights, many of them fought at lightweight before he grew into a true welterweight and prospered there, becoming a destructive whirlwind, and a champion.
     
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  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Cuevas would stop him
     
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  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Cuevas was a tough and ferocious puncher. Of course he’s always a live opponent against anyone he faces. But his chin and defense weren’t the greatest. Miguel Cotto wasn’t Thomas Hearns or Roberto Duran by any stretch of the imagination. But i think he was in some ways a more complete fighter than Cuevas. That said im not confident enough to make anyone a solid favorite but im leaning more towards Cotto.
     
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  12. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    Excellent breakdown of the fighters, and the Cotto pick is the sensible choice, not too briefed on Miguel, but for sure he was a very good fighter and champ, Cuevas is more my era, he was as you say a formidable and daunting prospect for any and all challengers, his dark continence,black shark like eyes, and the rather unstylish combover hair, but he could hit, he was in some ways almost a WW version of Foreman, the air of menace, the brooding sullen persona, and also the fear factor, there was not that many fighters that had that gene, Louis, Tyson, Liston, spring to mind, and that would give said fighters a huge boost prior to the fight, many an opponent would be beaten before the contest started, as was the case with some of Pipinos challengers I would suspect, as to the reference to his chin, well yes it wasnt up there with the best, but prior to Hearns he only lost on points, and what Tommy did, probably had a lasting effect, I would imagine that when a boxer is KO,d for the first time, it must resonate as to it happening again, as with lots of good matchups that didn't happen, him and Palomino would have been a fight for the ages, I would fancy Carlos to win after a torrid tussle, and it might resemble the DeMarco / Basilio fights, where one fighter has a vaunted left hook, the other a granite chin, and the chin wins, nice chatting buddy.
    stay safe.
    Mike.
     
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  13. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you understand that Cuevas literally BROKE BONES of opponents he hit?
     
  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Id comfortably say Cotto is the better fighter of the two, and certainly the more well rounded, but I agree with the loose consensus here that he's too hittable and Cuevas is gonna nail him.
     
  15. BCS8

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    Cotto is the better boxer but Cuevas had ****ing nuclear power. He was one of those guys that God (or the Devil) gifted the touch of sleep. This might be one of those cases where the one guy seems to be doing really well until he suddenly isn't. As some have pointed out, Cotto isn't the hardest guy in the world to land on. I think based on styles, I'll take Cuevas as a slight favourite by KO with Cotto a live underdog.
     
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