Pipino Cuevas vs Ray Leonard

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cuevas > Zeppelin....but both highly overrated
     
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  2. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A highclass poster indeed you are. Bonzo 4ever!
     
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  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Starting at 0:23 you can see highlights of Pipino going through the 147-pound ranks:

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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    In all fairness, Sugar Ray Leonard did have real good movement and hand speed. Angelo Dundee would have devised a good fight plan for this bout which calls for Leonard to remain on the outside with movement and usage of the left jab. Ray staying off the ropes would be firing swift combinations, and connecting with the solid right hand when Pipino Cuevas is in range. By round 6 with Cuevas right eye beginning to swell, Ray catches Pipino with a solid right hand, spilling him to the canvas. Cuevas beats the count but is unable to stop the quick combos of the aggressive Leonard, it is stopped in round 6.
     
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  6. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Leonard late tko.

    It didnt happen because Ray decided to fight Benitez instead and then Duran. Then Cuevas got starched by Hearns before a unification could happen. Then Cuevas was never the same fighter and there was absolutely no reason for Ray to fight him.

    Morlocks probably thinks Leonard ducked Cuevas.

    Benitez was as highly or more highly thought of than Cuevas so whatever.

    Prime for prime Leonard would beat Cuevas. He had too many dimensions in his game.

    Pipinos only hope would be for Leonard to stand still for long stretches and trade left hooks. Even then Leonard had a good chin. But Leonard is not dumb enough to play Russian Roulette with Cuevas. Hed box him and use his considerable advantages in hand and foot speed.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Don't like Led Zep Philly? I could understand them not being to someones taste but they'd be pretty hard to overrate? Ridiculously influential. Took me a while to warm to them and give them a decent chance and i still rarely play them (that needs to change) but they are pretty special.

    Good to see you posting a bit mate.
     
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  8. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cuevas lost to Stafford in late 1981. Leonard fought Bruce Finch in early 1982 then retired because of a detached retina so an already scheduled fight against Stafford was scrapped.
     
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  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Carlos Palomino went to the bank on people underestimating him.
     
  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Ray Leonard ofcourse can move and use his quickness. Being the intelligent fighter he was I suspect Leonard would switch it up and go inside with Cuevas and back him up. He wouldnt let Pipino ever get comfortable and he certainly would be careful not to back up too much in a line because hook was a bit wide and long. He had murder written on those hooks.
    Ray Leonard was a great inside fighter. He could control the fight with versatility, quickness, Ring Smarts.
     
  11. Roughhouse

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    And both of you could be absolutely right. Palomino might prove too crafty and durable for prime Cuevas and rack up a bank of rounds and Leonard is generally underestimated here and everywhere else for what a vicious puncher and mega talent he was. He might well spark Pipino out like he did many others. I never have that much conviction trying to guess outcomes like these, but you have to have a take in these threads. I wouldn't bet the rent money on him.
     
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