Pipino Cueves

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  1. Philly-Tough

    Philly-Tough Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know a whole lot about the guy probably most famous for being smashed by Thomas Hearns, but I have a question about his resume. Just how good was it? Looking at thread people seem to debate just how good his title run was in particular and I was wondering if any knowledgable posters could shed more light on it, because I know very little about him besides he stopped evreynoe but Randy Shields (who was very tough) and was stopped by Hearns.

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  2. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    He KO'ed Angel Espada three times (why he fought him three times I'll never know)
     
  3. Senor Pepe'

    Senor Pepe' Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well for one,,,,,,,,

    At Age 18 1/2

    July 17, 1976 -

    As the #9 WBA Welterweight, he was a late-substitute challenger for the WBA Championship.

    He 'Knocked-Out' (KO 2) WBA Champion - Angel Espada

    And, he was a 'Super Popular Fighter' in Mexico at that time too.

    All the kids 'adored Pipino' and wanted to be like him, even before he won
    the Welterweight Title.

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  4. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Yeah, but Leonard ducked him. :rofl :patsch

    Ray simply had to know Don King was going to swoop in, rescue him and get Duran in the mix before he could hammer out the contract to fight Cuevas as was planned.
     
  5. dmar5143

    dmar5143 New Member Full Member

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    ive seen him fight several times.typical mexican warrior.heavy handed very hard puncher.he did beat some good guys mentioned in previous posts.add harold weston to the list..hes in the halll of fame one of several i feel that absolutely dont belong there.he was not a great fighter but a top welter for a few years.he was very fan friendly with action.overall a good reliable crowd pleaser who was maybe slightly above average for his era.i hope this helps..
     
  6. A.J.

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    Exactly.

    Pipino Cuevas was a good guy, a young champ with great power who was good for the sport, but he beat the Harold Westons of the world ONLY. Now, maybe nobody would have beaten Thomas Hearns on Aug. 2, 1980, but Cuevas was never even in the fight for a moment, and this possibility WAS expected at the time--Hearns was viewed as an explosive talent and Cuevas was a smaller, slower, less-skilled version. But still with that great power, hence it was billed as "World War II" (to fellow welters Leonard-Duran #1--"WWI"-- of 2 months earlier).

    I don't think Pipino would have beaten any of the welter stars of that era at 147, having his best chance against Palomino, I feel. Not sure that he necessarily beats Carlos, though . . .

    Cuevas, like Hearns and even Tyson, was one of those big-power guys who, once beaten badly, never had that same "invincible" aura again.

    But he was a class act and an exciting, aggressive, KO fighter during his reign.
     
  7. Senor Pepe'

    Senor Pepe' Boxing Junkie banned

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    Jose 'Pipino' Cuevas

    One of the 'true',,,,,,,, 'One-Punch Knock-Out Artists'

    Nothing 'phony' about his left hook.

    Steam-rolled Pete Ranzany in September 1978, when Pete was regarded as 'The Best 147 lb. Fighter' around.
     
  8. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    God no.

    Cuevas, along with the Lineal/WBC champion of the same time Carlos Palomino were both very good fighters, if a level below the Benitez/Hearns/Leonard/Duran clan that stormed through the Welterweight division in the late 1970s/early 80s. A lot of fighters would've fallen to the same group. See: Mayweather/Pacquiao. :yep