Pirog and Golovkin should have agreed to fight, imo

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dece Bal, Feb 21, 2012.


  1. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem with excusing fights like this from not happening on the basis of risk-reward is that pretty much everyone in the division has that attitude as well. It's been causing problems in the junior middleweight division for years and the same is starting to apply at 160 as well. Rather than simply hoping to hear from Martinez, Chavez, or Sturm on the basis of out-of-ring factors or pure luck, more guys should be taking pro-active steps to land those fights via their accomplishments in the ring.
     
  2. Dece Bal

    Dece Bal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, someone needs to take the bull by the horns before it dies of old age. :good
     
  3. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Latinos and Pinoys are a considerably big and passionate ethnic minority in the US. Pirog's and Golovkin's situation is nothing like that. Nobody is going to fight them unless they become known to the wide boxing audience. They'll achieve that either by fighting each other or doing it the Chisora way of a G. Since they're apparently not fighting, they might as well talk themselves into a big fight via the media.
     
  4. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Pirog himself said there was no real proposition for the fight from GGG's team - just talks.
    He said many times that if they both were a little bit bigger making the fight wouldn't be a problem.

    I'd like to see that fight too but apparently there's no money at all in this fight.

    All other big names declined fights with both of them.

    Quite frankly i'm not sure even if say Pirog wins it'll secure him big fights as GGG is largely unknown.
    And Pirog is not very popular fighter himself.

    I'd like to see them both against good opponents.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No - in fact, losing to Pirog might be the one sure fire way for Golovkin to lure Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam into the ring! :lol:
     
  6. Dece Bal

    Dece Bal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks. I'll change the thread title - it's misleading. :good
     
  7. Dece Bal

    Dece Bal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly!:D
     
  8. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Neither Showtime or HBO had any interest in this unfortunately, which killed it before any serious negotiations could start.

    I actually think this would be the best styles match-up at 160 but it doesn't look like we'll see it anytime soon. I don't really know what either guy has to do to convince US tv to give them a shot - they're both very watch-able imo and I think casual fans would quite like them if they saw them.
     
  9. thehavenots

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WquXe5iSQ3g&list=FLNNZX39OB09ttrLO-3QpU7A&index=2&feature=plpp_video[/ame]
     
  10. thehavenots

    thehavenots Member Full Member

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    Pirog delivered in sensation fashion on his first fight on HBO, the whole hbo broadcast was in awe, he has a special style and could make for many good fights. Like michael buffer said after the fight: a new middelweight star is born. I belived so but nobody with a name or a titel wanted to fight him after that performance and I never heard anyone on hbo menton Pirog after that. WTF? Someone up didn't want to see him more and I dont understand why
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cr1jmikeQc&feature=autoplay&list=FLNNZX39OB09ttrLO-3QpU7A&lf=plpp_video&playnext=1[/ame]
     
  11. Dece Bal

    Dece Bal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And this is precisely why they need to forget about risk/reward and just put their wares on display against each other.:good
     
  12. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pirog needs to become more busy and make himself marketable and maybe another HBO/Showtime fight will come his way. He's had two minor defenses of his belt that he won over 1 1/2 years ago and nothing scheduled. Not being very active isn't going to help his cause.

    There are a lot of U.S tv dates available that Pirog should be looking at that don't involve the big HBO and Showtime slots. Showtime has ShoBox and now is showing undercard fights. ESPN has weekly shows and Epix and NBC are doing shows and that doesn't include the Latino networks and ppv cards but I don't know what kind of interest they'd have in Pirog.

    The point is, even if its short money Pirog needs to fight as often as he can to build some interest to finally lure a big name. He has one of the major titles, surely there has to be a Cory Spinks type veteran or a Fernando Guerrero type prospect who would be willing to fight for a title on tv even if its short money like ESPN, ShoBox, etc. If Pirog were to stay active against even semi-recognizable names and look good beating them then a major fight should happen. Fighting once or twice a year against minor names in Russia isn't going to get big US networks on board.
     
  13. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Golovkin purpose is to become a Star in germany by knocking out papersuperchamp Sturm
    he should continue to force this fight.
    If the Job is done he should go for unification.

    But i agree with all the talents some kind of tournament @ 160 would be great to create a big name beside Martinez
     
  14. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Pirog said he lost his own money fighting Jacobs - the purse didn't even covered preparation expenses.