Please boxing god have mercy on kirkland

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  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    And look what that got him? If he wants help, he can donation with his money to the ppl in that neighborhood but he can also leave and move to stay away from trouble. But no he stay there and buy a gun in which he was already convicted. He's stupid for doing that and it cost him his career.
     
  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Thanks for the update. I really like Kirkland. I hope the best scenario works out for him.
     
  3. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe you need to read this article and walk a mile in his shoes.



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    http://www.wbcboxing.com/WBCboxing/p...cid&sortby=ASC
    Thursday, May 28, 2009
    Boxer-turned-trainer Ann Wolfe lost only one fight in her professional career. But her latest foe has floored several of her pupils — and keeps throwing punches.
    Wolfe is battling to help her boxers beat the streets.
    And the streets have the upper hand right now
    A visit this week to her gym near the airport showed Wolfe in the role of mother hen surrounded by about 30 gym members, ages 3 to 45. Gospel music was blaring from two large speakers as Wolfe led her unlikely dance troupe through number after number. It was cardio day at Ann Wolfe Boxing and Fitness, and it felt like 100 degrees in that sweatbox.
    "You should be here when we turn the heater on,'' she said.”That will get you in shape real quick."
    Afterward, she helped to load a few youngsters into a dilapidated old van, which her mentor Pops Billingsley drives to take them home.
    It's the usual routine for Wolfe, who is working on a shoestring budget to keep her gym afloat. While her resolve can't be questioned, Wolfe admits to the frustrations that come with trying to do a difficult job under even more difficult circumstances.
    That point was illustrated on national television last month when HBO's "Real Sports" visited Austin to film Wolfe preparing her prized pupil James Kirkland for an upcoming bout. All seemed to be going well until Travis County sheriff's officers pulled up and placed Wolfe and one of her boxers, Isaiah Nash, in handcuffs.
    It turns out Nash was driving a stolen truck.
    "I try to help these (expletive) kids and this (expletive) happens," she yelled as the cameras rolled.
    It turned out to be a real source of embarrassment and frustration for Wolfe, who hasn't had any trouble with the law since serving time in prison in Florida during her teen years for drug dealing.
    To know Wolfe is to respect where she is after looking into the rearview mirror of her life. Abused as a child. Prison. The murder of her father in a drug deal. A stint in prison. Illiteracy. Life as a homeless mother.
    Now she wants to help those who have gone through similar issues. Wolfe believes she was put on the planet to help disadvantaged kids become productive citizens but hasn't gotten the assistance she needs to make any real headway.
    That may be changing, thanks to Travis County Sheriff Greg Hamilton.
    When Hamilton heard that Wolfe had been detained by his officers — she was later uncuffed because she had nothing to do with the stolen vehicle — he thought back to Wolfe's speech to the Building Bridges Brick by Brick foundation, a local crime prevention council. He was asked whether, in light of the "Real Sports" fiasco, he still planned on helping her boxing club through proceeds from his department's annual charity basketball tournament — the Travis County Sheriff's Shoot-out June 12-14 at the Delco Center. "You damn right I am,'' was the answer.
    "I admire Ann,'' the sheriff said. "Plus I have what they call a good bull monitor. She's real. That thing on HBO didn't change my feelings about her. She is working every day in that gym trying to help out kids who come to her with nothing. My department wants to do everything it can to assist her."
    Wolfe had also hoped that her boxers would benefit from a new Police Activities League organized by Austin police and appealed to Chief Art Acevedo for help. But to Wolfe's chagrin, those resources went instead to the A.B. Cantu Pan American Recreation Center and not to her boxers. (Calls to Acevedo this week and last were not returned.)
    Wolfe struggles to keep the gym open. A $1,100 check every month from Waco businessman Brian Pardo — the man who got her started in professional boxing — helps cover living expenses, but she has to come up with another $2,000 every month to pay rent for the gym and help keep the old van running. Wolfe said she earned 7.5 percent of Kirkland's purses, which amounted to $40,000, half of which went to gym expenses over the past year.
    She is the first to admit that many of the people who walk into Ann Wolfe Boxing and Fitness are far from angelic. The rules are simple: No weapons. No profanity. No quit.
    Some of the young ones show up hungry. No deodorant. No shoes. It's a refuge from a bad home life for some, a pathway to a boxing career for others.
    "A lot these kids aren't normal, and a lot of them don't want to work," she said. "They grew up on the streets. The older ones don't want to wash dishes for seven bucks an hour when they know they can go out and sell drugs for 700 bucks in one day. The same thrill they get on the streets is the thrill they can get in boxing."
    Wolfe has spent as much time in courtrooms and jailhouses than she has in the gym lately.
    Her star student, Kirkland, rose quickly up the ranks to become the world's No. 1 contender at 154 pounds. That is, until he ran into an opponent who made his 25-0 record seem largely irrelevant. Himself.
    Kirkland was set to earn $235,000 to fight Michael Walker on the undercard of the Manny Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton title match three weeks ago and would have fought Daniel Santos for more had he won. That was before he was charged with felony possession of a firearm. Career interrupted. His lawyer, Michael Miller, told me Kirkland could have earned millions in very little time had he played his cards right. Now he's in a federal facility in Seguin, facing another prison term.
    Kirkland's childhood buddy Curtis Meeks — a Wolfe boxer who finished third in the National Golden Gloves at age 16 — is on trial for manslaughter after a man died when Meeks allegedly ran into him while behind the wheel of a car.
    Nash's arrest in front of the cameras for the use of an unauthorized vehicle charge is the least of his problems. The 21-year-old was arrested on aggravated assault charges (a Class B felony) last month and is locked up in Travis County jail.
    Another Gold Gloves boxer, 21-year-old Sir Lawrence Smith, was shot by an Austin police officer this month in the same high-profile confrontation that left 18-year-old Nathaniel Sanders II dead.
    Former McCallum track star Kurtiss Colvin was acquitted of manslaughter but convicted of aggravated assault last October in connection with the beating death of David Morales at a Juneteenth celebration. Now out of jail, Colvin, a member of the Agape Boxing Gym, advanced to the national Golden Gloves in Salt Lake City earlier this month, losing in the quarterfinals of the 165-pound division.
    While some are quick to dismiss them as common street thugs, Wolfe isn't turning her back on her students.
    "I see what she is doing to help us and it makes me try harder,'' said 15-year-old Dante Webber, who dreams of becoming a professional boxer. "When I met her for the first time, from the look on her face, I could tell she meant business."
    Wolfe hopes more kids like Webber will come. And she hopes she will be able to help steer in a positive direction. She's smart enough to realize sometimes you can't help kids who don't want to help themselves, but the ones who want to be helped are well worth saving. That invisible opponent will continue to throw punches and Wolfe has never been one to back down from a fight.
     
  4. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    is there footage of that....
     
  5. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Parts of it
     
  6. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    hook it up nucca
     
  7. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Personally, I have a lot of admiration for Ann Wolfe.
     
  8. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ten Chombon, but ESB got rid of the video for some reason

    They were following him on four different occasions. Once while training, once at a gunshow, once buying ammo, and once when a buddy threw a gun out the window

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/...d.php?t=134527
    “Has anyone seen this? I just watched it. At one point she is driving a Toyota pickup truck and Kirkland is jogging with another boxer in front of the truck. Here she gets pulled over because the other boxer stole the truck and let her drive it. Wolf started freaking out. It is hilarious....... I personally love Wolf and Kirkland.
    Im not sure if it was a DWB or not. The cop asked Wolfe if she knew that she was driving a stolen vehicle and her response was "**** no" then she looked at the HBO cameras and said keep that film rolling these cops like to beat people. The other part that made me laugh was that James Kirkland was across the road and he kept trying to walk over towards Ann and she would be like stay on that side of the ****in road James dont come over here and he would get all mad.

    It was a great piece and very funny.”

    Posted by an ESB member but now deleted
     
  9. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What do you mean, "Maybe you need to read this article and walk a mile in his shoes"? If anything, this article made me feel sympathy for Anne Wolfe, but not for Kirkland. This article in no way talked about walking in his shoes or his struggles. If anything, it made me think it was really dumb to do what he did when he had so much money and opportunity lined up. I still think 3-5 years is too harsh, but nothing excuses his conscious decision to break the law.
     
  10. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How does my saying: "Read the article AND walk in his shoes" necessitate that the article is all about Kirkland? Kirkland stayed around for a good cause even though Golden Boy wanted him to leave the Gym. Read between the lines man:deal

    I bet me and Johnny Cash could think of ten thousand reasons to your zero to consciously break your man made laws

    And why do have to show all that porn? You know how many criminals and children are in trouble for your sexual desensitization?
     
  11. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everybody breaks laws daily - but we're talking about a felon breaking the law (firearm charge, not exactly stealing candy) when he had so much to lose. He had all this money coming to him, which would have went to pay Wolfe, which would have helped the Gym - "his good cause". A lot of good he's doing for them now.

    And to say "your man made laws" is just ignorant. Regardless, they still have to be followed.

    And I guess people are not responsible for their own actions anymore. Me showing a picture of a girl in bikini is why they're all in prison - not because they're ****ing criminals who chose to ****, steal, and murder.

    I'm so tired of everybody passing the blame - how about being a ****ing man and taking responsibility for your own actions. Guess what - I see my avi everyday and I haven't used it as an excuse to takes someone elses rights away.

    God Damn!
     
  12. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats not a bikini thats sexual exploitation and neither me nor Johnny Cash nor Kirkland nor Ann Wolf would never say the Lord's name in vain as you just did. You make the law your higher power cause thats all you got. Plus, I really bet you want to take all our guns away???
     
  13. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok so she was forced to be a model, I am a criminal for looking at it, and all criminals are criminals because of it. This is such bull**** - Personal Responsibility.

    And I don't give a **** about Johnny Cash - J.E. Cash is for James Earl Cash.

    Also - you don't know ****. I not only believe in gun ownership - I am a gun owner, but legally.
     
  14. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ahh yes James Earl Cash: the death row inmate who stars as the protagonist in the first Manhunt game. After being 'rescued' from death by the sinister Starkweather, Cash must kill to survive.


    So why do you let this this video game character influence you but not the real Johnny cash?:think

    ...and do you know for sure that you would never ILLEGALLY carry a gun after you had been robbed in the same very dangerous neighborhood and with your girlfriend and lots of cash in a shiny Cadillac ?
     
  15. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    kirkland deserves a short jail term on rough streets if he feels threatened and needed to protect himself then so be it but what if he had got jacked again and shot his career his job would be in jeopardy even his life could be finished over possibly some crack head looking for some rock, hopefully the judge treats him different