Please contribute - THE PPV NUMBER DATABASE

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Please post the fight, the number of buys, and a link to the source.

    If you don't have a credible source (other message boards are not credible) then don't post

    If its an unofficial number or an estimate then please say so.
     
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  3. Kaz_187

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    hatton vs mayweather uk 800,000 The sun lol
     
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  4. rexobse

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    PAC vs JMM 2 - 525k
    source: PacDbest :D
     
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  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    link?

    I just found this

    Floyd Mayweather vs Ricky Hatton - estimated between 2.05 & 2.2 million buys (850K US and the rest UK)
    http://www.boxing scene.com/?m=show&id=11766
     
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  6. Kaz_187

    Kaz_187 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    erm the sun:huh dont have the paper now but i read it after the fight,but not sure of validaty
     
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  7. Marc

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    Great idea for a thread
     
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  8. Jack

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    Ricky Hatton vs. Floyd Mayweather overall - 1.5m
    Julio Caesar Chaves Jr. vs. Ray Sanchez - 70k
    Erik Morales vs. David Diaz 100k
    Evander Holyfield vs. Sultan Ibragimov 75k
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright - 305k
    Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Juan Manuel Marquez - 225k
    Floyd Mayweather vs. Arturo Gatti - 340k
    Oscar De Lay Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather - 2.4m
    Miguel Cotto vs. Zab Judah - 225k
    Jermain Taylor vs. Bernard Hopkins II - 410k
    Tito Trinidad vs. Winky Wright - 510k
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I - 350k
    Kelly Pavlik vs. Jermain Taylor II - 250k
     
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  9. PH|LLA

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    link to source?
     
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  10. Kaz_187

    Kaz_187 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wow over 1million in the uk go ricky
     
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  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All from Dave Meltzer or ESPN. Meltzer has them in his paper newsletter, so I can't prove them. They're all real though.
     
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  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    cool thanks for sharing. Just surprised cause your PBF - Hatton numbers contradict the ones i've read so far.
     
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  13. BigBone

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    PPV numbers are never accurate and not to be trust. There is no reliable (indipendent) source since HBO itself counts (via local services) and it's their (and the promoters') interest to convince the public that they always do good numbers.

    Do they lie? Well... let's just say they like to give the numbers away in hundreds of thousands... For example: "Marquez-Pacquiao did close to 500.000" can mean 478.547 as well... the difference between the official statement and the true number can be huge IMO (1000 PPV subsciptions mean $50.000!)

    I think it was the Klitscko-Williams fight they actually lied about... But also in other cases, these 350.000s, 250.000s, 300.000s are too big numbers with too many zeros for me... So for example if you would like to count the whole income of one event (revenue, sponsors and advertisements etc) you can't use these 500.000s as accurate numbers... only HBO and the promoters know the truth... Sometimes they even refuse to go public with these averages, Arum doesn't like to tell the world how much money did he earn (himself said that the fighters would ask a percentage of the share and he just wants to pay them an exact amount).
     
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  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    well at least we can compare them to each other, even if the figures are not 100% accurate.

    Also keep in mind that the revenue generated is not as simple as # of buys * 49.95 or whatever. Bars sometimes have to pay over 5,000$ to have access to a fight. Imagine that hundreds of bars across the US and Canada pay thousands of dollars to broadcast a fight thats alot of revenue.

    there's at least 10-20 bars in Montreal alone that had Winky vs Hopkins on.
     
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  15. Jack

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    Actually, I think that may be right. Mine is probably the GBP quote.
     
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