Please Explain exactly who Floyd ducked, an how it was his fault?

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  1. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    I will try to engage you in a sensible conversation only if you meet me half way and stop the trolling?

    I will firstly start with Pacquaio you say don't include guys who refused random drug testing why? was it the norm for fighters to be tested like that?

    Mayweather had the chance to fight a fighter who was ranked the p4p king and was ahead of him at that time after pac destroyed cotto the world called for it at that time pac was at his best mayweather used testing to run

    the other guy is martinez he called mayweather out in 2012 and said he would even go to 154 (a weight class where mayweather held titles)
    mayweather ducked a prime mosley also
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I thought this was common knowledge by now. Fl0mos slow to learn.
     
  3. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I will address your first point. boxing_master.

    Why did Mayweather want to go above and beyond the norm with Pac when it came to drug testing? Because Pac takes massive amounts of PEDs. Why did Pac not want to accept an offer for a seemingly egalitarian drug testing protocol? Because he was afraid that although Floyd certainly enjoys his PEDs as much as the next honest, hard working American man, he would be able to use his A-side leverage to make the "random" drug testing at "random" times that "randomly" happened to work out for him and not Manny. So you see, you are both right.
     
  4. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    The point is Mayweather was scared to death of fighting pac at 2009 plenty of footage to prove this he even said recently he picked the right time to fight pac because he was not the same
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I have been against PED use in sports for years and years. I've echoed stories about having to get yelled at by gung-ho Americans who were offended and would throw vile insults at me for saying that I felt Lance Armstrong was on PED's back when he was winning Tours. I was delusional. A mad man. Pure hater out to discredit a man for no reason... In reality I just have zero tolerance for PED use in sporting. Any extra step for testing is only ever a positive. Avoiding testing that is brought upon you? Unacceptable. Now Pac doesn't have to agree to the terms but at the same time I don't have to give him a "get out of jail free card" on the negative stance he took on this issue, either.

    The guy who proposes testing did not run from anything. The guy who ran from drug testing ran from drug testing. That is the only way that scenario can ever play out to me regardless of who the athletes are or what sport they are in. Why? Because PED use is real. If PED's didn't physically exist and the term was invented by Mayweather during the negotiations, then sure, maybe you'd be onto something.

    Had Mayweather ever fought at Middleweight before in 2012? You can't duck someone when you aren't in the same division. That's just madness.

    And no, Sergio saying he can make 154 and still be great does not count at all. You're an idiot if you feel that validates him as a 154 pounder just because he said he maybe could be one.

    A prime Mosley? Oh yeah? When was his prime and what weights was Floyd at during that time? If that isn't enough for you, make friends with youtube and watch the famous Mosley toothache interview.
     
  6. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Perhaps he thought Pac's ****tails were being mixed by a more adept barkeep than were his own in 2009 :think
     
  7. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No Pac was afraid of maywether. Everything that may weather asked for in 2009 to make the fight happen, he still demanded in 2015 and pac agreed to it. So That proves that pac could've agreed to it back then but he was scared.
     
  8. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao-ducked the same drug testing that he eventually took

    Clottey- he's beat many fighters better than Clottey

    Prime dela hoya- please show me evidence of De la hoya prior to 2007 attempting to make a fight with Floyd and floyd turning him down. you can't. mayweather's dream was alwaysto fight DLH and become a PPV star of his own. Thats why he bought out his contract from TR.

    Winky-wasn't in Floyd's weight class.

    Williams-got schooled by lowly Quintana,

    Cotto- it was Top rank that didn't want to put Cotto in with Floyd cause he was too green.
     
  9. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hehehe. they all consolidate to justify his ducking and twist everything to their agenda. just make a poll and see what happens until it will slowly gets corrupted again because floyd cannot be forced with a great legacy, he already said legacy don't pay no bills. people do the worst things when it comes to money.
     
  10. Mac mand

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    Margarito,because he wouldn't fight him
    Pac for 6 years-because he wouldn't fight him
    Etc
     
  11. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at the timing of when he fights people and under which circumstances ? most of the fighters he has beaten have been past it or looked bad before they fought him.
    I have no doubt in my mind that Mayweather only signed to fight pac this 5 years later because he got 100% confirmation pac was injured or on the slide.
     
  12. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. he's beat fighters better than margarita. margarita isn't even going to make the hof.

    2. Why in the hell would he choose to fight Margarito, when it was going to cost him the then richest fight in history against DLH.

    3. How is it Floyd's fault that the fight didn't get made when pac agreed to everything Floyd originally asked for. Floyd didn't budge n OSDT but pac did, which proves that he was ducking.
     
  13. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look at the timing. i asked in op, for people like you explain. So you feel as though the timing is in Floyd's favor. Again I ask, to specifically point to fights that were presented to Floyd that he turned down, for lesser opponents?

    And according to Arum, Pac has been injured since 2008, so his shoulder didn't cause him lose, he just got schooled by the superior boxer.
     
  14. Mac mand

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    Pac refused testing on the initial negotiations becaus he thought who the **** is floyd to demand it,literally a month later for 6 years he said **** it I'll do it then floyd retired said he hadn't earned his shot,he had Marquez problems,he didn't draw enough fans etc etc,and as for margarito,he was still available and itching for the fight long after dlh