Please Explain How anyone can have Calzaghe ahead of Paquiao in the p4p listings???

Calzaghe is a superior fighter, full-stop

 

P4P lists are bollocks.

 

Based on the fact that he couldnt stop a 43 year old man who had no legs left for the last 6 rounds? When pac faced an older legend (29/30), he faded in the later rounds and he did stop him and in style.

 

Very hard to make that case right now.

 

Nice selective point there

If we are going to use Calzaghe's recent victory, at least he actually clearly won the fight, unlike Pacman.

 

But Pacquiao was actually facing a superior fighter (at this point in their careers, JMM is a better fighter than Hopkins). This has to be taken into account.

 

It depends on how much 'tangible evidence' you really need. P4P lists are subjective, not matter of fact. People have different criteria, I personally use a combination of achievements, skills and h2h

Otherwise Oscar De La Hoya would be p4p #1.

 

A Lot of people thought Marquez beat Pacquiao in the 2nd fight. That might explain the reluctance to place him above Calzaghe. But most of this pfp ranking stuff is just a load of crap. They're completely different fighters, in terms of style, strengths, history, etc. Both seem to know how to get the job done, though.

 

But to what extent?

Calzaghe won by a clear 3 points, possibly 4, after being knockdown on my scorecard. Whereas Pacquiao drew with a knockdown. Marquez ain't that much better.

 

"Clearly" won the fight is subjective. There was clear controversy in the Joe-BHop fight too and I was the one who scored it for Joe.

If we're not going to use recent victories then what should we use then? Pac's demolition of MAB twice vs Joe's schooling of Lacy? Pac's demolition of Morales twice vs Joe's demolition of Manfredo? Or are we gonna use the 5 titles in 4 divisions (3 Ring belts) vs Joe's 20title defenses of the WBO belt? Joe's biggest achievement is Kessler and right now, Kessler is still pretty unproven on the elite level...that victory was no more impressive than Pac's demolition and KO of Ledwaba who was also ranked around top 15 p4p at the time, same as Kessler.

 

Slappy can't carry Pacquiao's jock .. Pacquiao moves up multiple divisions ... destroys the best repeatedly and you compare his resume and/or talent to Joe 'Best Fighter In Wales' Calzaghe?



When Joe gets buried are you gonna sleep in the little coffin right next to his adult one?


LMAO


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The man/boy love for Joe is powerful stuff

 

You credit someone for getting knocked down and descredit someone for scoring a knockdown? atsch