Size is all Klit would have on George Foreman, and agreed, that is some advantage. 1973/1974 Foreman would have been kept away for a while by Klit's long jabs. But Klit's never been hit by someone like Foreman, and when George finally catch up with him it'd be over pretty quickly IMO.
He'd have more than size on George imo. Foreman was one crude boxer, I cant see him out pointing Vitali and you'd have to seriously underrate Vitali to say he gets KO'd easily by a man I feel he would seriously outbox.
rope a dope was not an exhibition of a boxer beating a puncher...it was an example of a tactic that worked, for a variety of reasons. foreman should have been the greatest heavy in history. it just didnt work out that way. both klits get kod by pre ali george.
This is what I was alluding to, an assault from Forman would have Vitali go into his shell and take too much punishment. A ref or corner stoppage is the way I see it.
I've never seen Vitali go into his shell not even when Lewis was at him and Lewis probably hit harder than big ole George and definitely was a better boxer. George would have had to get in to range and punch upwards losing abit of power. George is just the type of fighter that makes Vitali look good today.
Lewis VS Vitali only went 6 rounds, Vitali didn't a get a chance to go into his shell. :hey Seriously though, Lewis is the only one who really pushed him, and I have to admit, Vitali looked good. George would have trouble with Vitali that night. However Vitali would have had more toruble with Foreman the night he fought Ali. Vitali would have had to deal with 20 cuts.
I know the a beats b and b beats c so a beats c is total bull**** BUT> George at nearly one thousand years old and well well well well past his best went toe to toe with holyfield. Holyfield was a bit past it by the time that lewis came around and they were still very good fights. Holyfield drew with lewis then lost in 12 and lewis beats klit in 6. To say that a prime Foreman would make anyone look good is a very big call. Im not saying that foreman would destroy anyone, but he was great in one era and very good in an entirely different era of boxing after being out of the game for over a dozen years. No one looks good against a prime foreman, he may get well beaten but nobody would have an easy time of it.
I thought Foreman on his comeback trail was a better boxer than when he was in his physical prime. He had wisdom and a much bigger body that I thought actually helped him in some circumstances. When I said "George is just the type of fighter that makes Vitali look good today" I was doing a lazy comparison to fighters Vitali has feasted on at times which isnt fair to Big George. He would have walloped them aswell. All in all I know what you're saying
I think you have delusions of grandeur, I was busy moving home but keep patting yourself on the back. There is a lot of drivel in this thread but none of its mine :hi:.
Pretty much agree with you Sally. If he'd have fought Ali a bit smarter he probably would have beaten him - then who knows after that with the belief he would have got as a result. He certainly thrashed Frazier like no one before, and Frazier is undoubtably an ATG as well.
The old gassing question? I like how you plucked 'large percentage' out of the air, that's not even a valid question. What is the percentage? How many fights have you worked out this 'large percentage' from? What a weak line of argument! :happy
Just the non answer i expected juniour :hey, how hard was the question i asked you peanut, just wanted you to explain why if you say the current elite fighters are way better than the older generation because of training etc, yet you can't even begin to explain why the older elite fighters could go at it for 15 rounds or more, yet a lot of the current guys have to pace them selves or they are knackered by round 9. It's not an argument by the way, you just can't back up with anything what so ever except spin it in another direction to avoid explaining your uneducated claims you started with.
You pluck random percentages out of the air and expect a proper answer? I don't know if you saw the fight as your head seems to live up your arse but cotto took a bit of a beating against pacquiao so I don't think he gassed :good If you want answer in your ridiculous logic then: a 'large percentage' of modern day fighters hit harder with a higher workrate etc etc