Please Participate--All-Time Light Heavyweight Poll (POLL CLOSED)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Jul 19, 2009.


  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So you don't place Jones among the top 10 168 pounders of all time?


    Charles beat the following fighters, all while weighing between 170-180 pounds, since that would seem to be the general area we're considering:

    -Archie Moore X3
    -Jimmy Bivins X3 (outweighed by about 10 pounds in each bout)
    -Lloyd Marshall
    -Gus Lesnevitch
    -Elmer Ray (HW who outweighed him by almost 20 pounds)
    -Oakland Billy Smith X2
    -Sam Baroudi
    -Erv Sarlin X2(a HW who outweighed him by double digits)
    -Johnny Haynes and Joe Baksi (HW's who outweighed him by 30+ pounds)
    -Fitzie Fitzpatrick X2

    Not to mention multiple wins over Joey Maxim, who outweighed the then sub-170 Charles by about 20 pounds.

    Which fighters did Langford beat in that weight range that are comparable to the list above? Remember, Langford has to have weighed inside those perameters. Most of the time he was beating HW's or smaller LHW's when he himself was between 185-200 or so.
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Well Langford did beat O Brien so had he been given a shot he may as well have won the title.

    Heres my list:

    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Sam Langford
    3. Archie Moore
    4. Michael Spinks
    5. Gene Tunney
    6. Billy Conn
    7. Bob Foster
    8. Tommy Loughran
    9. Roy Jones Jr
    10. Harold Johnson
     
  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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  4. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    1. Gene Tunney
    2. Archie Moore
    3. Sam Langford
    4. Ezzard Charles
    5. Harry Greb
    6. Billy Conn
    7. Bob Foster
    8. Harold Johnson
    9. Michael Spinks
    10. Tommy Loughran
     
  5. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1-----Ezzard Charles
    2-----Archie Moore
    3-----Michael Spinks
    4-----Gene Tunney
    5-----Bob Fitzsimmons
    6-----Tommy Loughran
    7-----Billy Conn
    8-----Sam Langford
    9-----Harold Johnson
    10----Roy Jones Jr
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    By the way, everyone, I had totally forgotten that I will be on vacation from August 8-15...

    :lol:

    So the deadline for this poll will be, let's say August 20.

    :smoke
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Gives me more time to put together a middleweight list i suppose...picking ten of those guys is nightmarish in the extreme. Makes doing a HW list feel like...put it this way, a middleweight 10 can be more painful than a tax return.
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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  10. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    1. Charles
    2. Langford
    3. Moore
    4. Tunney
    5. Fitzsimmons
    6. Greb
    7. Conn
    8. Spinks
    9. Foster
    10. Loughran
     
  11. Manassa

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    No right minded person can really rate Michael Spinks above Ezzard Charles, can they?
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    What I meant was he did little as Lhvy Champ.He was an old man when he won it so I dont knock him for that.
    I think OBrien is the most overated Lhvy of all time,he won the title from an old man and NEVER defended it .He was twice kod by the middle weight king.
    For the same reason I marked Conn down a bit, as like most LHvy Champs he went after the big prize .
    By his own admission , O Brien was in a lot of fixed fights, I rate Burns above him , Delaney,Jones,Berlenbach,Johnson ,Lewis too he doesnt make my top 20.
    Fitz was a super middle in a lot of fights ,similar to Choynsky.Where do you place them?
    Its subjective imo.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Sweet Pea is very fastidious about washing his genitals,every Friday without fail ,ready for the weekend:good
    No salt there!
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    People are wising up to you:lol:
    AGENT PROVOCATEUR !!!!
     
  15. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::rofl:good