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1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Harry Greb
4. carlos Monzon
5. Mickey Walker
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Les Darcy
8. Mike Gibbons
9. Stanley Ketchel
10. Jake LaMotta

 

Can anyone here really tell me the reason Burley gets so much Hype in here.

Is it because Bert Sugar and his story telling. Is that the only real reason.

 

The first time I ever read about Charley Burley was in a Ring Magazine article on Archie Moore, where ol' Archie was being interviewed. In this interview he paints as good a word portrait of Burley as I've read eversince, by anyone. Moore is explicit in maintaining that Burley deserved a title shot and that he would have beaten any champion who would have given him an opportunity.

 

one of the first quotes i read about burley was one from ray arcel who said he asked SRR once why dont you give burley a tittle shot and robinson replied i thought you was my friend ray

 

1. Harry Greb
2. Carlos Monzon
3. Sugar Ray Robinson
4. Marvin Hagler
5. Charley Burley
6. Mickey Walker
7. Bernard Hopkins
8. Holman Williams
9. Dick Tiger
10. Tiger Flowers

 

1. Monzon .....

The rest can fight for the right to be 2nd .. Nobody beats a prime Monzon at 160 ..

 

Charley Burley was a sensational fighter, unfortunately like Moore he wasnt given the chances that his talent deserved, which is why its impossible to rate him above Monzon, Hagler, Greb etc ..

 

How the hell can you have Hopkins at 6, Lamotta at 10 and no Dick Tiger ??
Tiger would destroy these 2, and he'd beat Gibbons too ..

 

Hopkins at 7 and Tiger at 9 ?? Hopkins is so over-rated on this forum. Tiger is maybe forgotten but this guy was brilliant. Rodrigo Valdez and Briscoe would beat Hopkins ..

 

Whats going on with all these top 10 lists. Some have Dick Tiger at 9 or 10 below guys like Hopkins and Lamotta, thats ridiculous. Valdez and Briscoe would destroy Hopkins and Lamotta .. Hopkins ruled a nothing Middleweight division in the 90's getting into ungainly, ugly brawls with limited guys like Echols and Allen after being schooled by Jones .. Lamotta was a tough guy who cannot be compared to a guy like Tiger ..

 

I dont particularly disagree with your defense of Tiger...I may have made that mistake myself and didnt fix it in time before Rummy tabulated my list.

But Briscoe destroys Lamotta?? :admin Id love to see the arguement behind that one.

Valdez is tough for anybody...but wouldnt pick him to beat Hopkins let alone destroy him.

Jake can certainly be compared to Tiger...his record is nearly as good...Not quite there but its one of the better ones the division has seen.

 

I hate doing top 10 lists but im gonna have to do one as you guys are getting it all wrong ....

1. Monzon
2. Hagler
3. Greb
4. Cerdan
5. Robinson
6. Fitszimmons
7. Tiger
8. Burley
9. Ketchel
10. Hopkins

Surely this is the difinitive top 10 of true Middleweight champions, guys who operated at 160 for the majority of time in they're career ..